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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:24 PM
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Who is behind the Edwards "I'm sorry" negative ad?
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:24 PM by Herman Munster
It looks professionally done. The message at the end makes it sound like they want Edwards supporters to support Obama.

The user only joined 9 hours ago and this is the only video they ever posted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOZML6P0Vg&eurl=http://...
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:26 PM
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1. Who wins if it is believed..does that ans. your question
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:39 PM
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14. Everyone but Edwards.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:26 PM
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2. I thought it could be Kucinich supporters, too
Or Obama supporters. Or somebody wanting it to look that way. I saw it on MyDD.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:38 PM
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13. No, it's douchebags like those who repost it. Not Dennis.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 PM
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29. It makes the most sense
The final line is Dennis. I'm not saying he made it and is distributing it, but supporters of his could easily be. There is resentment that Edwards drained off some of Dennis's usual support. Dennis is angry. Nobody's gone negative against Edwards except Dennis. Nobody's called Edwards on his record like Dennis has, except one time Dodd.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:02 PM
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33. LOL.... CZ, best response yet !!!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (( ))

Now a question for Herman Munster:

You said... "The message at the end makes it sound like they want Edwards supporters to support Obama"

Which to me suggests that you (not us mind you, but YOU) think that Obama's team must be behind the clip.

So..... How did you come to that conclusion anyway?

Please explain to the class your reasoning, because I gotta tell you... I don't see where the video points to any campaign in particular.

Thank you for enlightening us.

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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:08 PM
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35. it's common sense
who has the most to gain by siphoning off edwards support in the iowa caucus. It's certainly not kucinich. He will not be viable in 99% of the precincts and his supporters will end up having to caucus with someone else or go home.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:25 PM
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38. Ah.. yeah..

.. sure thing.. whatever you say Munsty...



.............................. (( ))
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:28 PM
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3. That video pretty much sums up JE
He should have used the "I'm sorry" song on that video as his official campaign theme song :rofl:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:28 PM
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4. Its a good ad, but what at the end makes you tie it to Obama?
If anything it looked like a Hillary plug. She's the one obcessed with
"expirence"
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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 PM
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8. well
the message at the end of the ad doesn't make sense if it was from a Hillary supporter. Since she like Edwards voted for the iraq war.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:40 PM
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18. Maybe. Unless Clinton wants to bleed some of Edwards' support into a non-threatening
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:41 PM by Occam Bandage
candidate like Kucinich. Or maybe it's some Republicans just stirring the pot for kicks. The problem with trying to find a culprit for a hit piece is that literally everyone has means, motive, and opportunity.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 PM
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9. The end is what made me think of Kucinich
About getting it right the first time. Clinton couldn't say that.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:40 PM
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17. Kuciniches debate line was "We need a president who gets it right the first time"
And what the hell is "expirence"?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:43 PM
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20. Look at Lirwin being the spelling police!
Super Cool Lirwin!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:59 PM
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32. I don't know what "expirence" is. Who are the Kuciniches?
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:30 PM
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5. Some desperate asshole or
group of desperate assholes who are afraid of the fact that Edwards could win in Iowa...and beyond.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:36 PM
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10. "Desperate. You keep using that word."
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:40 PM
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16. It's apt. So what's your problem? Are you desperate
because you can't think of anything else to post?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:44 PM
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21. It seems I can add "desperate" to my list of
"words commonly seen on Democratic Underground that have apparently lost all traces of their original meaning."
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:50 PM
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26. Maybe to you "desperate" lacks meaning.
I used to think DU Biden supporters were pretty cool people. Now, not so much.

Biden remains my #2 choice despite supporters like you.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:56 PM
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31. When you claim that the supporters of other candidates are "desperate"
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:58 PM by Occam Bandage
because of your third-place candidate (running a distant third, mind you, everywhere but IA, and with absolutely no funding to compete through Super Tuesday), well...you have stripped the word of absolutely any meaning it might have had. "Desperation" is the state of being in a situation so grim that there is no hope remaining of success. Someone "desperate" is someone acting futilely, knowing they have no hope of success, yet still trying. Edwards having "a shot" at winning one state does not lead to "desperation" in anyone.

Tell me now, who is "desperate" on account of Edwards' stranglehold on the bronze?
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:05 PM
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34. If Edwards does win Iowa
he'll gain support, including, but not limited to, financial support. That could be very bad for the other candidates.

Whoever posted the anti-Edwards video probably realizes this. That's why they did it.

Now get the hell off my back.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:13 PM
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43. You know who are desparate?
Housewives that's who. See,I managed to insert sexism into yet another DU thread. It's traditional this time of year.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:49 PM
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24. YOU GOT IT
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:55 PM
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30. Is it possible that some people don't want Edwards as their nominee
and are not assholes.....or do y'all get to decide what's what?

Will it be Bushtype insults for all of us who don't want to kiss Edwards lovely behind?

can we at least wait till after the primaries before we decide to support him?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:33 PM
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6. When such ads as this run constantly during Feb through Aug, when Edwards'
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:34 PM by FrenchieCat
campaign has no money to refute this type of stuff.....we will know who put them out, and it won't make a bit of difference who it was, because the ad speaks for itself...and the only one appearing in the ad is John Edwards.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:37 PM
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12. Waaa!
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

John Edwards doesn't have as much money as my favorite candidate! Waaaa!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:40 PM
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15. That's what you will be doing while watching those ads air on the TV
from February till August 28th.

Hope you've got a box of tissue or two or three.

Personally, I find it sad as well....cause I'm fucking tired of losing.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 PM
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7. Professionally done? You could do that in iMovie.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:38 PM by Occam Bandage
Of course, that's often a deliberate choice to give a more informal feeling. Maybe this is a viral-marketing job by the Obama campaign. Maybe it's some freelance work by an Kucinich or a Ron Paul supporter trying to bleed off some of Edwards' netroots support. That seems more likely to me, at the moment--especially since, as others have pointed out, "get it right the first time" is a DK line.

The fact that it has not been posted on any websites yet, to my knowledge, is surprising. The direction of the ad is sophisticated--it attacks Edwards on a strength of his (his honesty) by exposing the weakness underlying it. Whoever did it knows what they're doing.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:41 PM
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19. Many here at DU have been discussing Edwards "I'm sorry" on everything
since the beginning of this primary election.

It wouldn't take a brain surgeon to come out with the idea for this video. :eyes:




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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:48 PM
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23. Oh, it was one of the converted Clarkies then.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 PM
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28. Or one of those "He didn't look at me and give me a smile at the last meeting.......
and so I'll fix him" crazy Edwards female supporter! :shrug:
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 PM
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36. That makes no sense. Try getting some therapy to get over '04.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:23 AM
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41. Urh......Edwards is running now......
Your Clarkie crack wasn't anymore funny than my Edwards mad stalker example was. Guess you own the corner market on first strikes and judging what makes sense, hey?
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-16-07 10:05 PM
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42. It's just that you stalk Edwards because of '04. Time to let it go.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:37 PM
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11. Kucinich
The line about 'get it right the first time' is his

Although I would not be surprised if it was pugs just trying to keep us divided

People are coalescing around Edwards and Biden as the glitter and novelty wears off the two glamor candidates

The pugs KNOW that is their biggest threat. If we could stop fooling around with them, and DK, and Richardson, and Dodd (I like lots of things about all of them) and just run Biden/Edwards this thing would be over. We could move the inauguration up a year.

The not-so-stealth campaign to keep us at each others throats probably uses our own people as fronts.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:47 PM
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22. Let those among us who have never made a wrong decision


cast the first stone.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:49 PM
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25. Let those of us who have never made a right decision
avoid running for President.

This goes double if you spend half the time at the debates complaining about the frontrunner being a conservative sellout.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:50 PM
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27. That would be "wrong decisionS" with an "S" at the end of Decision.
Let those among us who are not running for President but will be voting for one

cast a vote for a candidate who has made minimal wrong decisions involving the lives of thousands and the well being of others.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:14 PM
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37. Well at least it focuses on the ISSUES n/t
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:38 PM
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39. Who cares?
I know I don't. Many here on this board have made videos of the repub candidates. Big deal. I imagine that during the general election, there will be so many videos, both good and bad that it will become ridiculous. He did say he was sorry, so what. We now have an idiot in the White House who thinks he has been right in every decision he has ever made. And you know what? For some people all those decisions have been right.

Give me a man who can say he is sorry, and will try to avoid making the same mistake, over someone who thinks they always make the right decision, any time.

zalinda
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:08 AM
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40. by the way
I dont think John is sorry, that he fought hard for the sunset clause in the patriot act. I dont think he's sorry that he almost got the patients bill of rights passed which the corporate lobbyists were able to defeat. I dont think he's sorry that he voted against Bush's 87 billion Iraq appropriation because there was no provision for body armor. All candidates make mistakes, but Edwards has had some great moments too!
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