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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:10 PM
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So what WILL you do if Hillary is the nominee and the Rethugs bring up:
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 07:11 PM by Wolsh
Whitewater
Cattlegate
Nannygate
Helicoptergate
Travelgate
Gennifer Flowersgate
Filegate
Vince Fostergate
I wonder where those Whitewater billing records came fromgate
Paula Jonesgate
Federal Building campaign phone callgate
Lincoln bedroomgate
White House coffeegate
Donations from convicted drug and weapons dealersgate
Buddhist Templegate
Web Hubbell hush moneygate
Lippogate
Chinese commiegate - Clinton was practically endorsed by red China Update!
Let's blame Kenneth Starrgate
Zippergate/interngate - the Lewinsky affair itself
Perjury and jobs for Lewinskygate - the aftermath
Willeygate
Web Hubbell prison phone callgate
Selling Military Technology to the Chinese Commiesgate
Coverup for our Russian Comrades as Wellgate
Wag-the-Dog-gate
Jaunita Broaddrick gate
PBS-gate
Email-gate
Vandalgate
Lootergate
Pardongate
ChineaseDonargate
Just to name a few.



Seriously, are we ready to talk about all this baggage again? They won't be nice about it.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:10 PM
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1. Watch baseball
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:16 PM
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8. There you go. A sport without conflict, unlike politics.
:rofl:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:18 PM
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13. Lots of drugs, though
:freak:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:22 PM
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16. Don't go there.
:spank:

I'm going to need some relief, too! Just maybe not steroids. :yoiks:
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:11 PM
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2. All our candidates have baggage
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 07:12 PM by maximusveritas
If they don't, the Republican will be sure to make something up (Swift Boats). Let's focus on the candidate who would be be best for the country, not on who's the most "electable".
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:14 PM
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3. Precisely my point. nt
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:37 PM
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19. Some have more than others, though
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:20 PM
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36. True, but it is easy to defend our candidate
if he is in the right and the information is there. Even with the media being complict it became clear to all but the right wing fringe that the Navy did give Senator Kerry his medals. As a supporter, I found plenty of proof to defend him with.

I will not lie to defend anyone - there are somethings here I can defend HRC on - others I can try to change the topic. I am very unsuccessful lying - which may lead me not to phone bank or canvas if HRC is the candidate and I will definitely not defend her to friends and family.

Here I'm not in conflict on electability and who is best - I think HRC is neither.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:15 PM
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4. What batshit crazy right wing site did you copy and paste that from?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:16 PM
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7. The same one the Hillary fan boys and girls are using for their Obama is a druggie threads.
nt
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:17 PM
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9. i'm guessing this one------
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:18 PM
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11. Close, but it wasn't that one.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:15 PM
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5. if we are lucky neither hillary nor obama will be the nominee nt
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:16 PM
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6. I'm sure the press will jump on the GOP and nail them for going "negative."
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 07:16 PM by Olney Blue
:eyes:
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:59 PM
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26. !
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:17 PM
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10. Remind them they gave us junior
and shooter.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:18 PM
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12. Be as condescending as humanly possible to them.
That's what they deserve if they bring up all that, most of which is nonsense.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:20 PM
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14. Regardless of who the Dem candidate is.....
I will do whatever it takes to support and protect them to ensure that they end up in the White House. They will all be smeared anyway and Clinton is no different. They smeared John Kerry and he was a war hero with a clean record. She definitely has an advantage over them all though. She has had years of practice deflecting their assaults. We need to focus on kicking the Republicans asses and take back our government, our democracy, our country. Case closed.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:21 PM
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15. Simply respond that they spent MILLIONS persuing all that BS, and
it turned out there was NOTHING THERE! It was a sad story that the only thng they could REALLY find was a despicable sex adventure of her husbands that really turned out to be MUCH LESS of a problem for America than their President Shrub who had sent thousands to die, illegally spy on AMERICANS, destroy the constitution, ignore the rule of law, and so many more things, I don't have the time to list them all!

THAT should give them a bit to think about!
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:31 PM
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17. I'm ready for them this time!...
I asked Santa for this...

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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:35 PM
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18. let them get blue in the face and let their veins pop out with how much, how loudly, and how often
they want to "sin" (throw their mud) against her. i will go and vote for her anyhow.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:41 PM
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20. Why wait for the repugs to bring that shit up?
According to the standard promoted by Hillary and many of her supporters...

Democrats should beat them to it. After all, the Repugs will only raise it later, let's go ahead and hash it out now. Fair game, eh.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:41 PM
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21. I'm going to say, "I told you so"
I've been saying that Sen. Clinton is our weakest link for a long, long time. However, she's our most right wing link and the powers-that-be want her, so we're going to lose another election for that.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:44 PM
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22. Not a fucking thing but..
vote for her and campaign for her.

Why would you ask?
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Kokonoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:48 PM
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23. I would say she can use her experience of being investigated
To use all those shiny new executive powers to stick a high powered microwave bug up ever puke ass.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:54 PM
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24. Subject line
Just question their sexuality, they will freak out and run away (or maybe you will get lucky!).
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 07:57 PM
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25. I'll vote for her. And if not her, I'll vote for a ham sandwich over a Repug, anyday....
...and I'm hardcore vegetarian.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:04 PM
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27. I'll bring up the zillions of dollars spent by the Starr investigation that
revealed none of this amounted to anything.

And the great shape the economy was in, with a budget surplus, when the last Clinton left office.

Next question?
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:05 PM
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28. you missed the latest from free-republic
she`s having an affair with her hot campaign staffer who has no income to support her handbag fetish and an expensive apt. in new york city. yes it` was on free republic a month ago!
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:19 PM
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29. You list all these terrible, criminal acts, except how many went to jail
The right wing music box has been busy since '92. I ask again. How many went to jail? It seems an awful lot of much ado about nothing. But, if its gets you through the day, who can complain.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:30 PM
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30. I think you miss the point
this is a post in response to this thread

So what WILL you do if Obama is the nominee and the Rethugs

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:41 PM
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32. You're right, I did miss the point.
If Obama should be the nominee, the pukes need not say one god damn thing about him. He can't win. Period. I confess I don't pay any attention to his campaign or what he says. It would be a waste of time. In my opinion, only one Democratic candidate has a fair chance of winning in November of 2008. The beltway whores are beside themselves, but fuck 'em. I been around long enough to know the difference between right and wrong. I don't need some millionaire puke reporter telling the sun will come up in the east tomorrow, or maybe that was the west. They have been drinking their own koolaide for so long, I don't think they are fuckin' sure anymore.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:53 AM
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42. " confess I don't pay any attention to his campaign or what he says."
That's obvious.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:30 PM
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31. Tell me again, which of those "scandals" involved actual crimes?
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 08:30 PM by baldguy
































































































Thought so.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:50 PM
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33. That's not baggage.
That's made up republican garbage. Figures you'd repeat them all here.
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:49 PM
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34. If it's Hillary--then I am sitting out the presidential part of the election
and concentrating my money and time on senate and congressional candidates--same with my vote.

If the RW can stay home then the Democratic base should consider sitting at home until the leadership starts taking us seriously.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:50 PM
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35. That's made up crap from the GOP noise machine.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:22 PM
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37. Send her a few bucks every few weeks. Vote for her. Same as with any Dem.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:43 PM
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38. Well, add this to the OP's list....
The Reps plant a story about Bill Clinton having another affair. It can be true, partly true, or totally false....no matter. Fact of the matter, it would be believable. And it would cost Hillary several points in the election.

Sad thing is that it would ALSO cost other Democratic candidates several points in their elections.

Of course, the list you gave is quite lengthy and I am sure ALL will be brought up.

But can anyone hear doubt that Bill's penis will become an issue? And if Hillary doesn't smack him down, they will say there you go again enabling him! And if she does smack him down, at the very least it would stall the momentum of her campaign away from the issues she would want to be talking about.

Some things are predicable.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:58 PM
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39. All have been investigated and nothing there. Americans will
reject the republicans as they did in 98 99 by telling them not to impeach President Clinton.

But in this room many in here remind me of the rabid right wing.If this is not you, then why is it that folks in here keep on bringing this crap out. You supporters of obama have a fever....This fever reminds me of the GOP's impeachment fever back in 1998. Bill's impeachment was like a criminal assault and battery. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever.
The GOP was "caught up" with impeachment fever - that's all they could see or hear. Bill's approval rating was in the 70s - and voters clearly didn't want him to be impeached, but like the criminal who can't stop until he assaults enough, it was GOING to happen.

Hell, the GOP lost seats in November of 1998 - but that didn't matter to them. NOTHING was going to stop that impeachment because they had the fever. They lived and breathed impeachment the way some people are now living and breathing "Stop her!"

IF YOU,LIKE ANOTHER CANDIDATE BETTER THAN HRC,VOTE FOR HIM OR HER...... But when I read some of the hate directed towards HRC, you got the fever and that tells me something.

Democrats need to worry because your "Stop her!" fever is turning you into what the GOP was in 1998 and if she loses then we all lose in 08.

Ben David


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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:11 PM
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40. Who cares what we do? It's what SHE does.
If she acts as wimpy as the previous two candidates, in the face of Republican fire, she will lose.

If she fights back intelligently, she might win.

And that's the question to ask every one of the Democratic candidates; if you win and you are attacked, will you wear Pink Tutus? Or will you stand your ground and return fire?
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:45 AM
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41. Well, Obama's reaction seems to be working...it isn't hurting him in the polls at all
Obama played it smart from the start. He disclosed the stuff about his youthful cocaine use a long time ago. So he did not have to explain it now. It is already old news, and it is the Johnny Come Latelys that look like opportunists because all this time they said nothing, and now just before the caucuses they bring up what Obama said years ago. I'd say this is a lot more effective than not saying anything about it, then when confronted saying I didn't inhale....
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 08:11 AM
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43. Been done. Nothing found. Yesterday's contrived garbage falls on deaf ears.
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 08:12 AM by Alamom


Impeachment and trying to get rid of or convict a pResident is not popular in America.
It looks like the same applies to presidential candidates. Americans don't like vindictive politics or so it seems. (Numerous threads about that everyday on DU)


BTW, where "is" Ken Starr these days?

Not to mention a few others who tried to create crimes from nothing.



Also, everyone has a past.





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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 02:53 PM
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44. All that stuff gives Hillary a big advantage
Everybody already know the GOP lies about the Clintons compulsively. Nobody but the media listens to them anymore. Bringing that stuff up will likely create a backlash that will benefit Hillary, just like it benefited Bill in the 90s.

Even the GOP knows its all lies but they say it anyway. I noticed that books that smear Hillary don't sell as well as the used to. Even the GOP is getting tired of it after 15 years.

Wag-the-dog-gate? Oh please, let them bring that one up.
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 03:29 PM
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45. I'll fall asleep
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