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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:57 PM
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Clinton denies White House run is in trouble
Clinton denies White House run is in trouble
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JOHNSTON, Iowa (AFP) Hillary Clinton on Friday denied her White House campaign was in disarray, despite sliding poll ratings and an uproar sparked by an aide who questioned her rival Barack Obama's drug history.

"If I had listened to ... the Washington chattering class, I would not be standing here would I?" Clinton told reporters, as controversy and reports of campaign turmoil swirled around her 2008 president bid.

"I believe in trusting my own instincts. I feel very, very good about the case that I am making."

New signs of weakness in her presidential big came less than a month before the first nominating contest in the race, the Iowa caucuses, and amid an Obama surge in the polls.

A new survey confirmed Clinton's lead had evaporated in the crucial state of New Hampshire, which on January 8 will hold the first nominating primary vote after the Iowa contest.

The poll this week by the Concord Monitor newspaper showed Obama leading Clinton in New Hampshire by one percentage point, with 32 percent support, after having trailed her for months.

In Iowa, the first test in the nomination battle, the race remains a statistical dead heat though Obama has edged ahead of Clinton by a couple of points in a RealClearPolitics.com average of Iowa polls.

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http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jS9KgOf1fxOiL9oUjb3...
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:58 PM
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1. So it's now a real contest. May the best candidate win! n/t
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:58 PM
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2. Nobody seriously thought that she would admit to it did they? n/t
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:04 PM
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13. If Hillary was really slipping...
every other thread in this forum would not be an attack on her.

Every word she utters is examined under a microscope and sources quoted are not those who are usually considered valid sources.

Surprised that most of the attackers aren't reading Drudge and Newsmax to get more material.

All three of the leaders are under attack. Kinda a shame if you ask me.

End result that we all want is a strong candidate to take on the Repugnant machine and destroy it in the process.

With their cast of clowns, we can expect this to happen.
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:59 PM
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3. Hillary only ran against Rickee, how would she know really competitiion?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:03 PM
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9. Obama ran against Alan Keyes.
Lazio got 44% of the vote in New York while Al Gore got 61% in the same election.
Lazio was moderate enough to do that well. Alan Keyes was a nominal candidate.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:07 PM
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15. ???
She's ran against

Giuliani who had to drop out
then Rick Lazio who she trounced

then she trounced Pirro so badly she had to drop out midway
then she trounced Spencer
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:15 PM
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18. Besides its not like she was there with Bill during
all campaigns. /sarcasm



What a silly post that was.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:17 PM
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19. Seriously
you can debate over a lot of things.

Hillary's experience on the campaign trail ain't one of them
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:21 PM
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22. Disagree.
Her NY experiences have been pretty easy, and she's never been the candidate, the one standing up there on stage, in any other contest than those.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:25 PM
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23. Uh huh


She won so easily because she put up an incredible campaign.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:40 PM
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24. Nope.
The Reps had no one to put up in either election. And in the first, she was replacing Moynihan, a statewide favorite who endorsed and campaigned for her. She's less battle-tested than someone like Schumer, who beat the incumbent D'Amato 55-45 That was a campaign no one thought he could win. Very few thought Clinton could lose either of her campaigns (after Giuliani withdrew). Schumer has also polled better statewide and won with a larger majority than she has - so she's not been able to get all the voters who voted for other Dem Senatorial candidates to vote for her.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:44 PM
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26. The Clinton/Lazio race was a statistical tie
a few months before the election. It was by no means a "gimme" for Clinton.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:56 PM
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27. Hmmm, that's right.

Here's the history:

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1317.xml?What=&strArea=&strT...

I truly recalled it differently.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:59 PM
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4. Nothing to see here. Move along. nt
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:00 PM
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5. Hillary refuses to listen to the "DU chattering class".
;-)
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:01 PM
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7. "DU chattering class"
:rofl:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:01 PM
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6. The press has it where they want it now, a horse race. Otherwise
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 03:02 PM by The_Casual_Observer
they would have nothing to write about. As I recall, the press had Howard Dean ahead last time.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:02 PM
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8. I think it's a bit hyperbolic to say Clinton's campaign is "in trouble" or in "disarray."
She's still in first or second in almost every state poll, and way in first in the nationals.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:18 PM
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21. I agree
She's had some mishaps, but there's no reason she can't get past them in enough time.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:58 PM
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28. Absolutely. And I say that as someone who's more or less behind Obama. n/t
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:03 PM
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10. Hillary coming in thirs is hardly a horse race...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:03 PM
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11. Good for her. That's a winner's attitude.
The fact is she still leads in NH and South Carolina. She's doing just fine. She'd be an idiot to not expect the race to tighten up. She just needs to remember that her public "inevitable winner" persona doesn't go well with attack politics--even if she thinks the other side hit first. If she wins up with the nom, I hope she cannibalizes Obama's staff. They're running a smarter campaign than hers.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:07 PM
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16. Obama's staff is very Rove-like.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:14 PM
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17. that you for that thoughtful, balanced, well reasoned pile of drivel
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 03:14 PM by Bucky
When I was 8 I engaged in name calling. Sometime around the age of 10 I figured out this was a dumb way to have an argument.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:18 PM
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20. I'm just pointing out a fact.
You call it drivel, but what can I say.
It's the left wing elitists that always cost the Democratic party elections.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:14 PM
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25. As a social studies teacher, I'm paid to teach kids the difference between fact & opinion
Your social studies teachers failed in this regard. You're entitled to your opinions, it goes without saying. Calling them facts is just silly.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:03 PM
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12. First, the media creates the "Hillary is inevitable" myth, then when it is proven to be a myth...
...they create the myth her campaign is in trouble simply because the race is tightened and she now only leads in 17 of the 20 or so primaries from Iowa to Super Tuesday.
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Franc_Lee Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:04 PM
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14. CNN Breaking News: Huckabee soars - Clinton slides
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