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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:24 PM
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The Progressive Magazine: Edwards Wins Debate, Obama Loses It
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:33 PM
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1. By their standards, yes.
Edwards finished in the top tier though.

:kick:
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:50 PM
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5. I like to think of real Democrats as being Progressive.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:07 PM
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8. Agreed!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:14 PM
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12. I like not having a litmus test for what constitutes "real dems"
I like believing in a party that isn't elitest. I like to believe that the guy working a blue collar job in Detroit is as legitimate a democrat as the woman teaching at Berkeley or the ex-lawyer goat cheese maker down the road from me. I like believing in a big tent.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:35 PM
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2. Didn't click the link, but
I don't know how any of them win or lose in forums like these so-called debates. It's not about making the most persuasive case for a particular point of view, in contrast with some other point(s) of view. They're pretty much all on the same page and it's just an exchange of campaign speech snippets and "zingers."

:shrug:
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:36 PM
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3. Your favorite magazine, isn't it?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:41 PM
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4. why would you ask that?
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:58 PM
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6. That was my question as well. Obviously, some Obama supporters don't
consider themselves or Obama Progressive.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:09 PM
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9. Since when? Do you have examples?
:shrug:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:10 PM
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10. rofl
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM by ClarkUSA
:rofl:

Yeah, this OP coming from a DLC cheerleader who slams progressives and lefties in other threads is now googling articles designed to divide Obama
and Edwards supporters is damn funny.


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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:16 PM
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13. Pretty funny
question.
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Tejanocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 02:14 AM
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7. Interesting.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:11 PM
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11. I don't think Obama lost at all...
he came out unscathed.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 06:23 PM
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14. Next time I see Matt (which is about once a month), I'll tell him my opinion
Edited on Sat Dec-15-07 06:25 PM by zulchzulu
Matthew Rothschild is a HUGE Kucinich fan (I am too on some levels), but doesn't know much about Edwards and his China MFN vote when talking about how bad China policy is... blah, blah, blah...

I guess some people expect Obama to be doing some outrageously dramatic speech that we all cry the second we hear it ALL THE TIME. If you look at the debate honestly, all the candidates were pretty on message and a little too nice to each other. Matt's misread on Obama zinging Hillary was the only highlight.

I see Matt and John Nichols on occasion at a local cafe near the Capitol in downtown Madison. There's always something bizarre to talk about in these Bush years.



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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 07:50 PM
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15. Good idea
I'll be interested in what he says in reaction to your words. By the way, are you still going down to Iowa?
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