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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:22 PM
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Jane Hamsher SMACKS Obama superdelegate John Millin
Wyoming Democratic Chair (and pledged Obama superdelegate) John Millin goes all concern troll over Hillary Clinton:

Democrats in Wyoming are in a position to make huge gains this election cycle...All of this progress will be completely reversed if Hillary Clinton is our party's presidential nominee. For reasons I don't agree with and don't completely understand, most voters in Wyoming seem to hate Hilllary Clinton.


Gee, that wouldn't have anything to do with fifteen years of 24/7 sexist claptrap being spouted by right wing gassbags like Rush Limbaugh, would it? But somehow, Millin just can't seem to put his finger on why that is. Her negatives aren't high because a bunch of angry white men hate her, it's all the result of some unfathomable je ne sais quoi.

If Barack Obama is the democratic presidential nominee, we will be the party of new ideas that understands that a united America will be much better able to address the serious problems facing our country than a divided America. If Hillary Clinton is our party's nominee, every democratic candidate in Wyoming will be painted with that same liberal, big government brush. We will also be the target of the locker room jokes that rightfully belong to Bill Clinton.


Well we can't have that, now can we. Hillary Clinton will "divide America" -- because the wingnuts hate her. I guess that settles it right there. If we get rid of Hillary we can all just cuddle up by the fire with a nice bottle of chianti and whisper sweet nothings with Michael Savage.

Kumbaya.

Some people feel that the basis of this argument is really that we can't support Mrs. Clinton because she is a woman. This is simply not true. Wyoming has a long history of supporting women in government and politics...Our opposition to Hillary Clinton is not based on her being a woman, it is based on the fact that her nomination will kill the chances of many democratic candidates around the state.


"Our opposition." I guess he speaks for all Wyoming here. For the good of Millin and his buddies, who don't want to be the butt of locker room jokes, she better step down now.

While I don't agree with this view of Mrs. Clinton, I have to accept that this is the truth. It has become the dirty little secret in the Democratic Party.


Well he doesn't agree with it, and some of his best friends are women, but gosh darn it everyone agrees with him...even though he doesn't think it himself... and that kind of makes him, you know, a truth teller and all. Unafraid to say what others just won't, out of an abundance of concern.

Kinda like Bill Shaheen.

Millin tells his inspirational story about catching Obama fever:

I was lucky enough to have gone to the 2004 (Democatic) National Convention in Boston. And I think I was like most people in the room that night, when you listened to (Obama's keynote) speech, you thought, 'Oh my God, this guy should be president.' So that's probably really where it began.

Yet, when you listened to the contents of the speech, much of what he said he could have actually delivered at the Republican National Convention.


Really. Well, fancy that.

http://firedoglake.com/2007/12/14/wyoming-democratic-ch...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:23 PM
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1. Obama's DNC speech "could have actually delivered at the Republican National Convention."
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:24 PM
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2. This has already been addressed in the other thread...
Millen DOES NOT work for the Obama campaign!!! He's a simple supporter of Obama who ran off at the mouth...but he is not a co-chair of the Obama campaign in a way that Shaheen was for Clinton in NH.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:25 PM
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3. It's being addressed again
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:26 PM
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5. Stop trying to turn this into a Shaheen moment for Obama when it's not...
The fact that Millen doesn't even work for his campaign makes all of this fake contreversy moot.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:28 PM
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6. do you agree with Millen?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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9. Hell no...
And I think it's f*cking stupid to say this right now so the Clinton's can jump on it and turn it against Obama. If I were Barack, I would send a strict letter to all of my supporters (mostly in politics) and people who work for my campaign and tell them not to do me any favors.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:25 PM
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4. He's a surrogate for Obama.
I love how people on this board have the ability to slip into complete naivete when it suits them.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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7. hey, did you catch what he said about Obama?
Obama's DNC speech "could have actually delivered at the Republican National Convention."
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
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8. Campaign strategy vs. loose-lipped supporter with no formal role
This fails the equivalency test royally and you know it.

That said, Obama is showing that he can win without this stuff. His surrogates should be put on notice.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:48 PM
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10. Question: is Jane Hamsher supporting Hillary? I honestly don't know,
as I am not a regular reader of FDL.

As to the remarks, I guarantee you this will get little traction. The guy mentions something everyone in the country already knows, and states the obvious. The guy also is not in the Obama campaign, but is an Obama backer. I do think that anyone who supports a candidate (including us on the blogs) to a certain degree reflect on that candidate. I just don't think these remarks were particularly explosive.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:10 PM
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11. So what do you want Obama to do about it? Fire him as WY Dem Chair?
Oh wait, he can't do that because the guy doesn't work for him. :eyes:
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