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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:19 AM
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For me, there's one upside to Clinton winning:
Watching all the people whose attacks on her are not criticism, but vile crap, freak out all over this board.

That would be quite entertaining.

And if I'm not being quite clear here, let me repeat that I'm only talking about those who attack her for bullshit reasons. Sadly, there's plenty of that- like the threads about her laugh yesterday in the debate.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:21 AM
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1. There were entire threads about her laugh?
You have got to be kidding.

I agree, btw. That would be a fandabulous bright side. :)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:25 AM
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2. There were at least two threads about the "cackle"
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:27 AM by cali
and even analysis about how you can tell she's a bad person because of her laugh. couldn't possibly be sexism, could it?

I'll try and find one and link it.

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:32 AM
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5. I often defend Hillary, even though I'm an Obama supporter. I try to be
fair, because I fully expected her to be the nominee, and didn't want to contribute to damaging her in the general. But that laugh during Obama's question was pure mockery and belittlement--that's my gut feeling about it, no other way to interpret it. She just couldn't help herself. I don't know that she deserves to lose the nom because of it, but some of us found it not very charming.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 AM
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9. I heard it this morning and I came away with the impression
that it was a nervous laugh. I think it's open to interpretation, but I find it disturbing that people here make such a bfd about it.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:49 AM
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11. You would think that it wouldn't be a big deal, just like the Dean scream (to use an easy example)
shouldn't have made a difference. BUT...sometimes candidates do things that reveal just a tiny glimpse of their emotions, motives, insecurities--people subconsciously pick up on incongruities between what someone is saying and doing, and what their eyes, voice and body language are projecting. A "hearty", genuine, good-natured laugh is in the ear of the beholder. Obviously, many heard something else behind that laugh--a little too loud, a little too obvious, a little too gleeful about Obama being asked a question that would possibly make him look foolish. And her eyes, after Obama's snappy comeback--she wanted to kill him. She played it badly, and got burned, and you could see it in her face with the forced smile and fierce eyes. That's what I, and many others, saw--the episode revealed a little bit of her inner workings. Human emotions, but sometimes emotions aren't pretty. That's what brought Dean down--it wasn't the "Yeaaarrrgghhh"--it was the angry look in his eyes, the red face. Too human and uncontrolled.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 AM
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12. sheesh. I think you're reading waay too much into both those
events. Dean often has a red face, and I saw nothing angry in his eyes that night. Nor do I think anyone else could possibly say with any certainty that they did- unless you were actually there a few feet from him. Only heard Clinton, didn't see her, but I think it's interesting how her laugh keeps coming up.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:05 AM
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14. You can say that, and to a certain extent I agree--
campaigns shouldn't be brought down by something trivial, it should be policies and positions and resumes that are emphasized. But people aren't choosing someone purely from paper. We are always looking for signs of candidates' inner feelings and motives, looking for clues to their character. Sometimes politicians don't hide the "ugly" human stuff when they're supposed to, and some hide their human side TOO well (Al Gore in 2000, Mittens Romney now). We respond emotionally and by gut to these people, and I think that's usually healthy. It's the "beer-with" regular-guy thing that I find baffling, though. I don't want someone who's just like me, I want someone BETTER than me.
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:27 AM
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3. Even better would be the (hopefully actual) exploding heads of the pukes
and their fellow travelers. They would just go absolutely batshit - even crazier than they already are.

I do not support her candidacy - her views and policies are much too corporate-centered for me. And I do think it would be extremely hard for her to govern in any effective manner because the pukes would fight her at every turn and the Dems would not support any progressive initiative.

Still, for the entertainment value of right-wing lunacy (esp. my in-laws), it would not be a total loss.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:41 AM
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10. oh man, that would be a pleasure. The melt down
of freeperville would be epic.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:30 AM
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4. That is NOT a cackle. Gawd, it's a "from the gut" laugh, you should
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:32 AM by monmouth
hear me when something strikes me really funny. If that's all they have to complain about her they are really scraping the pile. I love a good laugh from people who are appreciating irony, humor, whatever. HRC has a sense of humor, enjoys irony and humor, that's her laugh, they need to get over it already....
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:34 AM
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6. While I agree with your sentiment, I think the Republican reaction would be even more satisfying.
Rush Limbaugh would probably melt into a smoldering pile of Oxycontin and fatty tissue.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:34 AM
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7. "THE FIX IS IN!" "DID SHE MAKE A DEAL WITH THE GOP???" etc.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 AM
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8. Good point
and I'd go so far as to say such an "up-side" is really applicable to any of likely winners. Of course I do agree it is most applicable to Hillary.

Julie
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:52 AM
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13. Yes, it will be "entertaining" to watch the entire left-wing blogosphere
blame the media, posit conspiracy theories regarding the media, Clinton, the RNC, the DLC, and "the corporations," blame touch voting, and encourage people to vote 3rd party. That will be "entertaining," in the same way that a shrieking two-year-old is "entertaining."
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM
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15. Yes, let's finish the job of flushing this country down the corporatist toilet
Just so Cali can have a good laugh.... :eyes:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:39 AM
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16. oh please, she's definitely not my pick but the hysteria about
how she's nothing but a corporate tool/accomplice is overblown imo, and she'd be much better than any of the pukes.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:10 PM
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17. I would have a good laugh, too.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:20 PM
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18. hope you won't be too disappointed
i can't wait to see the Lil Dog's followers to lose their shit. that will really make it all worth it. :thumbsup:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:25 PM
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19. I too wasn't happy to hear someone try and get the cackle talk going again.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:50 PM
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20. You really nailed it Cali...
notice the barking dogs doing conniption fits to answer?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:13 PM
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21. Maybe the can get high on StarSUCKS coffee afterwards.
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