Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

How Did Keyes Get on Stage?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:37 AM
Original message
How Did Keyes Get on Stage?
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/how-did-k... /

How Did Keyes Get on Stage?

By Sarah Wheaton
Alan Keyes(Photo: Charlie Neibergall/Associated Press)

The exclusion of Representative Dennis J. Kucinich of Ohio and Mike Gravel from the Democratic debate on Thursday stung those candidates and their supporters. But what made the situation puzzling was the presence on Wednesday at the Republicans version of The Des Moines Register debate of Alan Keyes, who had until then been nearly invisible in this campaign.

But Mr. Keyes met The Registers full criteria for participation. He filed as a presidential candidate with the Federal Election Commission, and he received 2 percent in The Registers poll in October. Participants needed to show at least 1 percent.

Mr. Keyes also met the requirement of having a campaign office and a paid campaign staff representative to perform full-time campaign duties in Iowa as of Oct. 1.

But no phone number could be found for the office in Lohrville, Iowa, that Mr. Keyes listed in his application to The Register. Even the states Republican leaders said Thursday that they had not known it existed.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:52 AM
Response to Original message
1. Andy Kaufman's Dead
Keye's was the best living entertainment they could find.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. Notice you've never seen Andy and Alan together at the same time....
If Andy's still alive, this could be his new alias.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #14
26. Da-yum!
You're right!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
2. DAMN IT!
I have called and called that $&#*@(&% EXCUSE for a newspaper, trying to find out where Keyes' mythical office is.

They successfully screwed Kucinich and hardly anyone here gave a crap. And several hateful assholes here indulged in calling him names, like bratty ugly school kids.

I'm so fucking disappointed...

:grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. DU is wonderful ain't it?
DK haters amuse me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #6
8. I wish I could be amused about it.
x(
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #6
39. Yes
Save that there was one spam poster that slammed one of the main threads that went after that damned newspaper. The person in question hung out long enough to put up 42 posts bashing anyone that challenged the paper and spewed a lot of lies about Kucinich.

I called her on her odd post frequency and got my sub-thread deleted for my trouble. It's nice to know that trolls and sock-puppets are so thoroughly encouraged here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:35 AM
Response to Original message
3. You know why
Next they might put Katherine Harris on stage. Then they can have a black and a woman.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #3
4. You're not even trying to hide it anymore, are you. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. ...
:thumbsup:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:09 AM
Response to Original message
5. Wow... the response to this scandal is deafening.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 11:12 AM by redqueen
Where are all the people who insisted that we who were bitching about this bullshit should shut up, cause he deserved it?

What... y'all got nothing to say now?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:14 AM
Response to Original message
9. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I'm not a huge DK fan, but the inequality of his treatment here is appalling.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:20 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. You mean at the Des Moines register or here on DU?
There are lots of people here who don't seem to give a shit how unfairly he's treated.

:shrug:

Then there's also the kind who actively HATE him and call him names... but then they seem to call other DUers names too... infantile and pathetic, considering they're possibly adults, but there you go.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:56 AM
Response to Original message
11. I wish that BS "DNC" thread hadn't been started.
As usual... flock to the bullshit, ignore the substance.

It is much easier to just avoid substance altogether, though... can't argue with that.

:puke:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:59 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. I wish the paper would explain itself. I do think an injustice has
been done to Kucinich given that no one can even find Keyes' office, but I'd also like Kucinich to explain why he thought Iowa didn't matter enough.

I really like Kucinich and his platform, but he's not without fault.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. No human being is without fault.
:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
13. Only Keyes office I could find is in Utah ?
Contact

Mailing address:

Alan Keyes for President
P.O. Box 50597
Provo, UT 84605-0597

E-mail:

General: contact@alankeyes.com
Organizing: team@alankeyes.com
Media: media@alankeyes.com
Events: events@alankeyes.com
Website: web@alankeyes.com

Phone: 800-727-6142

Fax: 801-691-0536

http://www.alankeyes.com/contact.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
19. I finally gave up trying to find that one person
whom I was referred to... and just asked someone who answers their phone. She said she'd have to call me back... computer trouble.

I'll let you know what I find out.

Sure is hard trying to find an answer to this question.

Pretty odd, huh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #19
28. We seem to be the future of Investigative Journalism :)
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:22 PM by Catchawave
Clearly, the NYT isn't as curious as we are, you'd think they'd like to find that Iowa office too :silly:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #19
29. Freeperville thread said no office in Iowa, confirmed by fox news?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Hah. I frickin figured as much!
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 01:41 PM by redqueen
:nuke:

Thank you for wading through the sewers to dig that up. I'm glad they checked on it.



Well... but... it's still somehow all Dennis's fault! I'm sure most on DU would agree!

He just doesn't care!

*sigh*
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. Actually, it was the first Google link when I goog'd
"Alan Keyes Iowa Office" :evilgrin:

I'm never sure about posting a link to "there", thanks for not alerting on me :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. Haha!
I didn't read what they had to say. All those wasted phone calls. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:10 PM
Response to Original message
15. He is black, so they look inclusive. He is insane, so the others look reasonable.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 12:10 PM by Throd
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. The Des Moines register decided this, not the GOP.
Your theory doesn't explain why Kucinich was unfairly excluded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:17 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. No it doesn't. I'm not sure why DK was excluded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. Any guesses?
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Throd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. I think it was just a poor decision
I'm not given to conspiracy theories.

Whether you agree with him or not, DK always makes for a more intersting debate. For that reason alone he should have been there.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:29 PM
Response to Original message
20. Thanks, not having Dennis in the debate has removed a few
unpleasant topics from being addressed in front of a national audience.


---Single-payer health care

---Accountability/impeachment

---Draft Iraq Oil Law which facilitates foreign companies in the control and profit of Iraq's natural resources.

---Past voting records of other candidates which might be inconsistent with their current stance on a variety of issues. Not sure about Richardson, but almost every candidate given the chance to vote on an issue voted together, except the candidate who was just excluded from this debate.


http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Spurned_by_major_newspape...

Spurned by major newspapers, Dem Congressman (Wexler) takes 'impeach Cheney' appeal to Web

"As the House Judiciary Committee continues to refuse any action on proposals to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney, three of that panel's members tried to take their case to influential op-ed pages of the nation's largest newspapers.

They were turned down by every one -- including the New York Times, Washington Post and Miami Herald -- so now one of the lawmakers has taken his campaign to the Internet...


"The truth is the mainstream media have no interest in this issue," Wexler said Friday.

"They have bought into the notion that impeachment hearings are outside the bounds of what the congress ought to be doing," the six-term Congressman elaborated during a conference call Friday..."


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. I can't think of a single excuse for not having a Medicare for All bill in the Senate.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 12:42 PM by redqueen
Lucky for the candidates in the Senate, they didn't have to worry about the Medicare for All bill being yesterday.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:41 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. There are no excuses, except for the fact that the corporations
do not favor that alternative. Dennis was told as much by the 2000 and 2004 Democratic Platform Committees. We get less than what we vote for, so it will be interesting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
21. Crazy Alan is a presidential candidate? I did not know. What fun!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mak3cats Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:59 PM
Response to Original message
25. He walked??? (Is this a trick question?) n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Did you read the information at the link?
How about just at least the OP?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mak3cats Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #27
38. I was being facetious, lighten up (said politely)... (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. Oops!
:blush:

sorry. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #25
36. Then it's an imposter. The REAL Ambassador Keyes would have transported in....
... from Heaven.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:47 PM
Response to Original message
31. I didn't realize that Kucinich was excluded from the last debate.
I didn't get a chance to watch but most DUers were talking about the Obama/Hillary smackdown. No mentioned of Kucinich not being there. That's just not right. Is kucinich raising a fuss about this?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #31
32. He has been trying...
lots of DUers jumped on the "he's a joke" bandwagon and still don't seem to care too much now that it's been proven that he was indeed unfairly excluded.

As for me I think it's important that Americans hear about Medicare for All at every debate. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:15 PM
Response to Original message
37. par for the course I'm afraid
it has past and there is nothing that can really be done now except make sure he is in the next debate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 23rd 2014, 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC