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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:15 AM
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Republimussen Poll- Obama- 43 Giuliani 43/ Obama 45 Romney 41
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics...


The other day I criticized Scotty Rasussen for having a Republican bias and got lambasted for it... Here's how Obama does against both those gentlemen (sic) in aggregate polling...He does much better, ergo:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:18 AM
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1. Didn't like the poll, I take it.
Well, everyone who doesn't agree with you is just WRONG! So there.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 AM
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2. No Need To Be So Vituperative In The Morning
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 08:30 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:25 AM
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3. And check out Junior's job approval ratings.
You will find that Rasmussen gives Junior higher approval ratings than any other poll, with rare exceptions.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/archive/?poll_id...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:28 AM
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4. Sometimes Statistical Biases Are Intentional And Sometimes They Aren't
He did do a nice job in 04 and 06 on his final pre-election polls... But that's a different matter...If he's wrong then, he discredits himself because his polls can be matched to and then judged by the final results... In a poll this far out there are no hard results to mach it to...
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:47 AM
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9. But there will be no final results to confirm or refute Junior's approval ratings.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 10:49 AM by Lasher
After all, he's not running for office again. And in any case, as you pointed out, this sanity check only works on the last polls right before an election.

Regardless, it's valid to compare polls. It is possible that Rasmussen is right in this case while all other polls are usually wrong. But the odds are against it. I make not judgement of bias, intentional or not. I have simply cited a clear trend and prefer to pretty much let it go at that.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:31 AM
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5. Senator Obama viewed unfavorably by 47% - seems the "any Dem will be viewed badly by 47% folks were
right.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:33 AM
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6. But look at his favorables relative to the Repugs...
Of the three candidates, Senator Obama currently enjoys the highest favorables. He is favorably viewed by 48%, unfavorably by 47%. Giuliani is favorably viewed by 44%, unfavorably by 51%. Romney is at 42% favorable, 48% unfavorable.

Not bad, considering any alleged Ras bias.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:38 AM
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8. I Don't Trust Him
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 08:42 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Do you remember his Portrait Of America Poll in 00 that showed Bush beating Gore by nine percent on Election Eve 00 ?... He was off by ten percent...That's the worst polling since pollsters showed Dewey beating Truman... What was ironic is that wingers used to tout it during the 00 election season...

Gallup had it 48-46 for Bush* but at least they were in the MOE... Zogby and CBS called it for Gore in the pop vote ...

http://www.pollingreport.com/2000.htm

Gore did close great...Too bad about the clusterfuck in Florida...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:35 AM
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7. I Suspect He Pushes Undecideds To Choose Between Favorable And Unfavorable
Here:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/...


Obama has a thirteen point lead over Romney in aggregate polling... Thirteen is a lot more than four...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 11:09 AM
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10. Big 3 unfavs are fairly high in Ras compared to other polls.
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 11:09 AM by rinsd
But I think he did a good job in 2004 & 2006 with his election polls.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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