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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:01 AM
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Why are ObamaNation and the Edwardians so terrified of Mark Penn?

The obsessive PennPhobia is very unbecoming.
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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:03 AM
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1. Not terrified, as a matter of fact we want that sorry scumbag to be the face of Hillary's campaign
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 08:05 AM by undercoverduer
. . .he will make Iowa into a 2 way race overnight. 2 way being Obama and Edwards. Yesterday was the first day I saw him in action and said "Lord, please, please, please. . .let this man keep his job!" He is a miserable excuse for a human being.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:06 AM
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2. LOL! That is funny!
:rofl:

The worse thing in the world for the Clinton campaign is to have Penn out speaking in public on her behave. He may be a good Rove-like character for the back rooms, but just like Rove in the other Party, you try and keep him behind closed doors...
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:08 AM
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3. LOL, hardly terrified, in fact, the best thing for Obama & Edwards would be
for Mark Penn to stay right where he is and to keep doing exactly what he is doing.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:10 AM
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4. Add uncommitted people in there. Not terrified, totally repugned.
Penn is as repugnant as Rove. I know you probably like that, but we need a change in politics in this country.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:11 AM
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5. Because he's a slithery slimy
Dick Morris in the making using Rovian tactics-does that answer your question?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:16 AM
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6. So explain all the 'he should quit/she should fire him' threads and posts?
:shrug:
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:31 AM
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12. I am thinking those are Hillary supporters
I like him right where he is.
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undercoverduer Donating Member (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:35 AM
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14. I think the people who want him fired are Hillary supporters who actually care. . .
. . .how she looks. I only want Penn fired if Hillary is our nominee because he will lose it for her, but as long as Barack's opponent I love him!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:03 AM
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18. All the 'he should quit/she should fire him' posts with Obawards logos are from Clinton people?
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 09:09 AM by MethuenProgressive
Wow. A Stealth anti Edbama campaign from secret Clintonistas?
:tinfoilhat:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:17 AM
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7. Terrified? Are you kidding?
I've been adamantly against Hillary's policies on such a level, that
it's caused me stress. Having Mark Penn steer her campaign into the
ditch--while watching it from a front-row seat in Iowa--has actually
helped me to relax a bit.

Mark Penn is the best friend of Edwards and Obama supporters.

I went to an Obama house party last night, and I actually kept my mouth
shut and didn't bash Hillary. However, she was discussed. There
were a couple of people there who were on the fence between Hillary
and Obama. Everyone in the room agreed that she had run a deplorable
campaign in Iowa--even the 2 people who were still undecided.

Another thing...relying on Mark Penn's bag of tricks is a miscalculation at this point.
Penn tactics worked for the Republicans, post 9/11 when this country
seemed to be subconsciously looking for someone who was tough. The days
of running a campaign based on bullying and Swiftboating are so over. America
is ready for refreshing, honest change and hope. Mark Penn is a PR master, but his
tactics are stale, unappealing and directly associated with Rove and Bush. Ha...
not exactly a recipe for success right now.

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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:19 AM
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8. It's not terror. It's puke-inducing revulsion.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 AM
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10. EXACTLY! We're not "terrified" of Rove, either. We're disgusted!
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:23 AM
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11. Thank You
Not terrified, Repulsed :puke:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:20 AM
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9. you are confused.
you're mistaking disgust with terror. Not the same thing at all.
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mth44sc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:33 AM
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13. Clinton insiders question top aide's approach
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:36 AM
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15. Aw...I love the seezbag for what helping Obama look so fine he's leading in Iowa and tied in NH!
I hope he stays on with Hillary so they can sink the Titanic Clinton together by Feb. 5.

Go Penn! Keep attacking and swift boating Obama... I hear from Chuck Todd on MSNBC that Hillary is losing precinct captains in Iowa because
of Bill Shaheen's Rovian BS. Gotta love it! Obama supprters love Mark Penn!! And Chris Lehane!! And Peter Daou!! And Bill the sociopathic liar!
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:53 AM
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16. Nobody's "terrified"
Intelligent people simply know who and WHAT he is and stands for.

Not someone most progressives would care to assiciate with.

Of course, if one doesn't actually share progressive values, that's not a problem.
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:56 AM
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17. We actually love Mark Penn. He does great things for us. Cannot wait till he is on TV again.
:sarcasm:
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:06 AM
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19. Terrified and obsessive PennPhobia are an odd choice of words n/t
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:08 AM
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20. Terrified? More like laughing at how incompetent he is...
If I were in the Hillary camp, I'd be terrified that Penn is still employed...

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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:11 AM
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21. I'm sure Bubba is loving Penn more this morning. nm
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:13 AM
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22. trippi and axelrod did not look scared last night when all
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 09:13 AM by ellenfl
three were on one of the msnbc shows. penn SHOULD NOT get in front of a camera. he's got a look about him . . . sorta like the penguin as played by danny devito.

ellen fl
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:32 AM
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23. i have stated over and over that
hillary had the dam thing wrapped up when she started. she was way ahead in the polls in iowa and it collapsed. the the obama oprah week end was one of the last nails in the coffin of her iowa campaign.

who is to blame? mark penn and hillary. hillary should realize that penn has done nothing but harm her. you should do some research into the gore penn problem in 2000 and penn`s relationship with the clinton`s. it`s an easy find on goggle. i`m not afraid of penn,i think those who support hillary should be.
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