Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Fix on Biden

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:19 AM
Original message
The Fix on Biden
Joe Biden: Biden was extraordinary today. Not only did he speak specifically and with authority on issues both foreign and domestic, he was able to tie all of his arguments together under the umbrella of taking action and setting priorities. Biden also beat back the toughest question of the day when moderator Carolyn Ashburn asked him whether his past verbal gaffes in relation to race reflected a level of discomfort with the issue. "I got involved in politics because of the civil rights movement," Biden said with real emotion, adding that his career in the Senate reflected that commitment. When he finished speaking, all of his rivals offered a "huzzah" for his answer. Biden also played to Iowans' vanity by praising them as the foundation of democracy and asserting their right to be first. A complete performance by The Fix's Iowa darkhorse.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/12/democrati...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:22 AM
Response to Original message
1. Indeed! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:27 AM
Response to Original message
2. It's truly intresting the amount of good press about him today...
finally, and he deserves it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:31 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Some people in the press might be feeling guilty!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #5
6. Naw, they're sniffin' the air
and want to be sure and be on top of anyone who might be newsworthy. Covering their ass in case they are wrong yet again.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:28 AM
Response to Original message
3. He's extraordinary EVERY day! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #3
7. I posted this in another topic, but it belongs here too..
I just don't want to miss the opportunity to elect a truly remarkable person, who himself, can bring the kind of changes everyone is looking for. But you have to remember, people are battle worn, because of Bush. So a lot of people are trying to go so far away from that, that they are leap-frogging right over Biden, assuming he will just be more of the same. Which is totally unfounded.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #7
13. I like that
I see this as an extraordinary opportunity, one that only comes along maybe once in a generation, if that.

I think Biden would be a historical president, of the caliber we haven't seen in a long, long time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:53 AM
Response to Reply #13
22. I agree with you completely
about Biden being the type of President that we haven't seen in a long time. I have never been excited about a candidate like I am for Joe. I've gone to the polls to vote against someone, not for someone & it will be such a fantastic feeling to vote for Joe. I honestly believe he is our best hope to get this country back on track.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #22
27. Sadly, I've done the same thing
This time is truly different. I am actually going to vote FOR something instead of AGAINST.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Think82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:30 AM
Response to Original message
4. KickinforJoe!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
26. ,,,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:37 AM
Response to Original message
8. It's been yet another good day on the stump for Joe Biden. He's really
growing on me. I might finally dump my holdout for Jerry Brown and jump on the Biden bandwagon.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Bwah!
:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:42 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. What a dilemma
Oh well, they have the same initials.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shanti Mama Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #8
24. OMG! For a split second I thought someone had put something in
my coffee! Tooooooooooooo funny.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #8
30. LOL...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tashca Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #8
32. Too funny!!!
I have to tell you a quick story.....in 1992 I and another guy were delegates to the county convention. Of course that year Harkin was elected in our caucus and was out of the running by this point. Bill Clinton had the thing sowed up........so out of protest we took our delegates and cast them for Brown....*L*....they didn't ask us to go to the State convention for some reason
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:42 AM
Response to Original message
10. My God, this is a fine man
Recently, I have thrown my support to Edwards ... a decision made carefully, I assure you. But I have always admired Biden, and today he was definitely at his best.

Could we do better than Biden? Yeah, I think we could ... I do have some issues with Joe. But I can swallow those issues. Let me put it this way. I am an Edwards supporter, but if Biden were to win the nomination there is no power on earth or in heaven that could keep me from the polls to vote for him.

My main anxiety about Joe Biden becoming President is ... how the hell do we ever replace him in the Senate? Who fills the Senatorial void a Biden Presidency would imply?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. Crap!
That is a problem. I don't know if there is anyone who could replace him in the senate. Maybe Jim Webb? He doesn't have the personality, but he certainly has the conviction.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #12
14. That is a problem, eh?
Edited on Fri Dec-14-07 12:54 AM by The Traveler
We Democrats are sometimes ungrateful. Here we are, bickering over choices like Obama, Edwards, Biden, Clinton, Kucinich, Dodd, Richardson ... while the Rethuglicans piss and moan over their best ... Ghoulini, Huckster, Mittens, Rue-if-he-wins Paul and (now mild respect must be engendered) John McCain.

We got it good, my friend. We got good people out in front of us.

** On Edit **

But I digress ... where the hell do you find another Joe Biden for the Senate? Of course that consideration does not and should not deter anyone from supporting him in his Presidential bid ... but, seriously. How do we grow the next Joe Biden for the Senate? I really hope he and Jim Webb are spending some time talking together ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:04 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. We do have it good in so many ways
Hopefully there are worthy people to fill the shoes of some of the tried and true statesmen in the senate, though somehow, I don't think it will ever be the same.

I am willing and ready to be surprised though.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:00 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. Coattails, my friend - coattails. Joe will have long ones. And the Wheel turns, does
it not? There is always someone coming along behind us. And the Wheel turns.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:05 AM
Response to Reply #15
17. Okay
You just answered my question!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
The Traveler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:39 AM
Response to Reply #15
18. The wheel turns, and Biden one way or another
must be replaced.

Guys like this do not show up every day, however.

Look, this is NOT a valid argument by which one may oppose a Biden Presidency. I am merely pointing out that the day Biden leaves the Senate for any reason a mighty void will be created.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. You are so right...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:42 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. So true
A very wise and perceptive observation. Thank you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #18
21. if Joe gets elected,
he might take a few good Senators with him for his cabinet, like Kerry for one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. Hopefully not too many
We need the good ones where they are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #21
28. He's a smart guy. He'd weigh his choices very carefully...
and would be mindful of any impact on the senate.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #10
31. the key question in a democracy
Democracy is an act of faith. I don't choose to believe that we have good people in Congress because we occasionally "get lucky". If Joe leaves a void, a democratic body will fill that void. People aren't born great; they rise to the tasks that history and fate put in front of them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
murbley40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:43 AM
Response to Original message
23. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:41 PM
Response to Original message
29. kicking
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-15-07 12:38 PM
Response to Original message
33. Biden is my pick
for most likely to surprise in Iowa. I'd love to see him bump Hillary into 4th.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Sep 19th 2014, 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC