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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:16 AM
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Give this one to Joe Biden
You can award Thursdays debate among the Democratic presidential candidates to the second-tier candidates, especially Joe Biden.

Biden, Chris Dodd and Bill Richardson turned in some of their best debate performances of the 2008 campaign and were the days biggest gainers. Bidens showing was the best of the day.

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As for Biden, how can you lose when everybody else on the stage is praising your record on civil rights, literally applauds you, and the front-runner offers testimony on your behalf? You cant. And unlike some of his past debate performances in which he seemed strident or comical, Biden was cool, commanding and presidential in this one.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?...

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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:17 AM
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1. It's on the board already...2 times, LOL...
Oh well... ;-)
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:34 AM
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6. Oh well
Better too much than not enough!

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:19 AM
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2. I wish he could be further up in the polls.
He is without reservation, my first choice.
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:21 AM
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3. I Don't Mind Reading It Again...Thanks n/t
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:23 AM
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4. Biden's popularity will rise the more he gets out there.
He has the capacity to come across as a prick on first glance, but when you really get to hear what he is about he's seriously got a lot to offer.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:36 AM
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8. He's got to get higher in the polls.
Iowa is only weeks away.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:37 AM
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10. Remember 2003
NEW YORK, Dec. 17, 2003

CHOICE FOR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE
(Democratic primary voters)

Now
Howard Dean
23%
Wesley Clark
10%
Joe Lieberman
10%
Richard Gephardt
6%
Al Sharpton
5%
John Kerry
4%
John Edwards
2%
Carol Moseley-Braun
1%

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:38 AM
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12. 4% is about where Joe is right now.
Kerry was there four years back.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:40 AM
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13. Exactly!
Iowa doesn't care about "no stinkin' polls" and they don't pay much mind to the MSM.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 03:58 PM
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26. always interesting to see those old polls
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 08:21 PM
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28. How soon we forget
Of course, the pundits always forget.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:11 AM
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21. If he has a chance to back away from foreign policy and showcase the rest of his vision, he should
take it. The Joe Biden brand in my name is tied way too much to foreign policy...He needs to share the rest of his domestic vision, which is more where the appeal has been for me.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:36 AM
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9. He definitely comes across as a "prick" if
you're Rudy!!! Or Dick Cheney!!!
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:43 AM
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16. Well he IS a prick if you're rudy!
But that's not what he is to the average person at all.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:50 AM
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18. No he isn't
but I'd hate to be Rudy these days. I don't think Rudy will get the nomination because of all the bad press, but damn, I'd love to see Biden take him on in a debate.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:44 AM
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17. LOL...
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:27 AM
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5. I liked reading it again, too! nt
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:35 AM
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7. A little De javu?
I wasn't sure if it had been posted. I'm in a blurry state right now.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:37 AM
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11. Other people will get a chance to see it if they're interested -- threads disappear
so FAST! Consider it a public service!
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:41 AM
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14. That's right
In case you missed it the first time!
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:42 AM
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15. I agree with you. We're on full automatic, firing full metal jacket.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:51 AM
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19. You say the funniest things!
:toast:
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:08 AM
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20. Thank you very much. I tell my clients, "If you can't laugh with me
when I fuck up your case, you've got no business doing business with me." Actually, I have very little talent for anything. My writers, the Irony sisters, are responsible for all my material.
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:32 AM
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22. We have a lot in common
I also have very little talent for anything, but somehow I feel I must serve some purpose, though I'm still not sure what that is.


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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:34 AM
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24. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH hahahahahahaha....
the Irony sisters.....too funny..
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PatSeg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:44 AM
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25. He certainly has a way with words!
Always makes you think, which is a good thing.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 01:32 AM
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23. Biden won the debate, hands-down. nt
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 04:02 PM
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27. k&r
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