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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:22 PM
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The Reviews are in: John Edwards Declared Winner of Des Moines Register Debate
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 05:47 PM by jsamuel
http://www.johnedwards.com/news/press-releases/20071211... /

Focus Group of Iowa Voters Declares Edwards the Winner. Fox News' focus group of Democrats in Iowa watching the debate declared Edwards the winner of the debate. Luntz: "I want you to raise your hands if you walked in here with John Edwards as your first choice. One, two of you. How many of you thought John Edwards won the debate? (Majority of crowd raises hand.) What was it about John Edwards you didn't pick him but what was it about John Edwards you thought stood out?" Democratic voter: "I had John Edwards coming in number three, and he was very believable, he didn't beat around the bush, he talked about the strong interest groups that he's been fighting for all the time, and he has a plan. He came in there with answers." (Fox News, 12/13/07)

Mark Halperin's Debate Grades: "Edwards A-"
Edwards A-
Obama A-
Clinton B+
Richardson B+
Biden B-
Dodd C
(http://thepage.time.com/2007/12/13/game-on-7 /)

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards Though Wins On My Scorecards."
"3:25 pm ET: Edwards though wins on my scorecards -- he was relentlessly on message, sounding strong, and making a very good case to keep this a three-person race." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

Des Moines Register: "He's Good;"
Praised Edwards' Answer on New Year's Resolution. Edwards' strength | Posted 12/13/2007 2:19 PM CST | "'Somewhere in America tonight, a child will go to bed hungry.' said Edwards. 'Somewhere in America today...a father will lose his job.' All of us are going to be just fine, he said of fellow candidates. 'What's at stake is whether America is going to be just fine.' He's good." (http://www.desmoinesregister.com /)

Fox News' Major Garrett: "Edwards: Looks Crisp and Confident and Has Clearly Honed His Populist Message."
"Edwards: Looks crisp and confident and has clearly honed his populist message about the role of corporate influence on American political life, his line 'corporate power and greed have literally taken over the government,' will stand as one of the punchiest of the day and crystallizes his campaign theme. His fumbling of his desire that this generation leave the nation in better shape than it was found left a humanizing and humorous feeling in the air."
(http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/12/13/democra... /)

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards Is 'Driven in (His) Gut.' Once Again, He Brings It Back to a Clear, Concise Message." "3:22 pm ET: Edwards is 'driven in (his)) gut.' Once again, he brings it back to a clear, concise message." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

Marc Ambinder: "But Who Did Best?... On Balance, Clinton and Edwards."
"But who did best?... On balance, Clinton and Edwards.... Why them, and not Obama? Because Clinton and Edwards repeatedly wove their answers into a larger argument. Almost every other phrase out of John Edwards's mouth contained the words "corporate power.." or "entrenched interests." And Edwards wasn't aggressive." (http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/12/de... )

Fred Barnes: I Thought One Person Did Well: John Edwards.
"I thought one person actually did well, and that's John Edwards and you know why? Because he relentlessly stuck to the same point. He got it across- that the biggest problem in America is corporate power and greed." (Fox News, 12/13/07)

ABC's Rick Klein: Fox Dialers Love Edwards' Message "Join Together to Take This Democracy and Take This Country Back."
"3:02 pm ET: Here's Edwards shooting broad once again 'join together to take this democracy and take this country back.' At least the fourth time he's sounded that theme -- if you're an angry Iowan, you've got to love that message. And the Fox dialers certainly do."
(http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

NBC/NJ's Carrie Dann: "He Knows His Iowa Audience."
2:43 PM "Edwards named the closing of the Maytag plant in Newton as the ultimate illustration of how corporate America is hurting the middle class. It was an emotional and much-publicized event for plant workers here in Iowa, prompting cathartic displays such as the public demolition of a washing machine. Edwards visited Newton, Iowa, the week of the plant's closing. The crowd hit hardest by the factory buyout is the one with which Edwards' anti-corporate populism resonates the most. He knows his Iowa audience." (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/13/51460... )

ABC's Rick Klein: Fox Dialers "Have Been Friendly to Edwards."
"2:53 pm ET: Two-thirds of the way through now, roughly, I don't see this contributing significantly to the campaign's storylines. The Fox dial tests have been friendly to Edwards and Obama, if that means anything."
(http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

TAPPED's Dana Goldstein: "Edwards Is Great On Education."
"Edwards Is Great On Education:" "I'm always impressed with John Edwards' discussions of education policy during these debates. He begins with the importance of early childhood interventions, he criticizes NCLB while holding out hope it can be reformed, and he highlights the privileges suburban schools enjoy that rural and inner city schools lack. He circles back to discuss free college tuition for qualified high school graduates."
(http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month... )

ABC's Rick Klein: Edwards "Quite Literally off the Charts with That Answer About the Tax System Being Rigged."
"2:11 pm ET: Fox News is doing running dial-testing -- and John Edwards is quite literally off the charts with that answer about the tax system being rigged." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards Is Looking Strong Today."
"2:25 pm ET: Edwards: 'What makes America America is at risk.' 'We need to take them on.' Edwards is looking strong today." (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )

New York Times' Katharine Q. Seelye: Edwards' Catchy Line: Americans "Should Be Patriotic About Something Other Than War."
"2:44 p.m. | Catchy Line Mr. Edwards has a nice line that he uses all the time, but it's still catchy: that Americans 'should be patriotic about something other than war.'"
(http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/13/live-blog... /)

ABC's Rick Klein: "Edwards is Making Just About Every Response About His Fight-the-Establishment Message."
"2:41 pm ET: Edwards is making just about every response about his fight-the-establishment message. He's good at hitting a message over and over -- often what you need to do in a debate that doesn't have major highlights."
(http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/live-bl... )
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:29 PM
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1. Woo Hoo, Go Johnny Go!!!!
:dem:
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:46 PM
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2. You should have heard Tweety earlier -
I think he knows Edwards is the one!
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:56 PM
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4. You mean when he pointed out that JE
said "corporate" 13 times?

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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:37 PM
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23. No - that while Obama and Clinton
duke it out, Edwards is able to get his message out and connect with the voters...sheesh.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:27 PM
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27. And how .. John, you're the man to beat....
Hillary is being hanged by her own goons. :loveya:
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:48 PM
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32. Edwards is coming on strong in all directions. Sometimes, it just takes
a while for people to catch on to who has the best msg.

Another important thing, if he could take Iowa, the first state, certainly would help him with donations and more contributers hopping on the bandwagon.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:52 PM
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3. The MSM is shoving Edwards down our throats.
Are we really going to let corporate media decide who our nominee should be?
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 05:57 PM
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5. Well, it is sure a change from shoving Hillary and Barack down our throats.
If Tweety starts in praising Edwards tonight or tomorrow, then surely the tide has turned.

At least Edwards isn't talking about chopping social security off at the knees.

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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:00 PM
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6. That's total bullshit. The corporate media has long touted his rivals.
And I haven't heard a word from you.

Now they say he won ONE debate, and suddenly you change your tone and claim their shoving him down our throats?

I call bullshit...
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:04 PM
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9. Not "bullshit" Kerry2008
"Mocking." Mocking the MO of Edwardians every time Clinton or Obama win a poll/debate.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:06 PM
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10. Stereotyping all supporters, eh?
I think I've said Hillary has been consistently good in every debate but the one before the last, and this one.

I don't see your point in mocking. Wanting to piss off a whole set of supporters seems kind of petty and stupid.

Edwards won the debate. Get over it.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:28 PM
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33. Clinton has never won a debate n/t
thanks
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 05:55 PM
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34. I whole heartedly agree!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:43 PM
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24. lol
The New York Times news account of today's debate doesn't mention Edwards until 11th paragraph . . .
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/14/us/politics/14cnd-dem...
Other than in the allegedly weird world of Iowa politics, the MSM still claims it is a two person race.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 02:08 PM
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31. You have jumped the shark. (nt)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:01 PM
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7. The reviews are in! Rick Klein heart sJE!
Edited on Thu Dec-13-07 06:02 PM by rinsd
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:01 PM
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8. Good for Edwards
I really wish he hadn't taken matching funds, because that scares me in the GE, a lot, but I'd be overjoyed with him instead of Hillary.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:09 PM
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11. Great reviews for the next POTUS.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:09 PM
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12. Many Of Us Edwards Supporters Have Been Called So Many Names
and have been hooted and hollered at for quite some time, but I've thought all along that he's been overlooked extremely. I feel if left up to "the people" Edwards would win and I think win quite well.

Just now is he starting to get some WELL DESERVED notice and RESPECT!!!

Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:09 PM
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13. Yep. That's my guy.
He can get the nom and win the election.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:09 PM
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14. Good! Now maybe Edwards
won't be stuck in the shadows anymore and the MSM will sit up and start taking notice of him and his message.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:10 PM
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15. You use the word "Declared" A lot of those posts do not "declare" him the winner though.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:17 PM
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19. To be fair, the Edwards website does not say the reviews declare him the winner.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:18 PM
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20. So just the OP is saying this then.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:20 PM
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21. Title of Pres Release: "Reviews Are In: Des Moines Register Debate"
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:29 AM
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28. The focus groups "declared" Edwards the winner.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:58 AM
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29. yes, that is where I got that word
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:16 PM
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16. Personally, I think ALL the Democratic candidates won in this debate.
The Democratic debate seemed so much more sane, reasonable, focused, and thoughtful than yesterday's Republican debate. And I cannot say how refreshing the Dem debate has been, to the point I've watched, not having to hear about God, religion and faith every other answer.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:17 PM
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17. Don't forget the asterisk! *
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:17 PM
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18. Not a very good selection of quotes. Nearly 8 from a single source ...
... and several others from disreputable sources.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 06:21 PM
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22. Like I said, last week........
The corporate media is now promoting John Edwards.

He may have won, but in the past, his good performances weren't fawned over by the media, in particular not Fox News (yet I have been hearing nothing but good things on Fox in reference to John Edwards over the past couple of weeks).

What has changed for this to now occur? :shrug:

you can find the answer here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 09:58 PM
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36. Ha! Bitter much!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 07:48 PM
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25. I thought Edwards did MUCH better today than he did in the past two debates..
I thought he just looked and sounded very credible, impressive.

All our guys did great, tho.. I'm proud of all of them.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-13-07 10:19 PM
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26. The Carolinian commands the crowd's attention and has earned their
respect.

I think he has a real good night in Iowa coming up on January 3rd.
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Twist_U_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 12:48 PM
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30. How did Kucinich do ?..............
Go figure........

"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there's free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate." Noam Chomsky
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 06:28 PM
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35. Dennis' exclusion from the debate was shameful.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-14-07 10:34 PM
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37. Did you hear what John Edward's did AFTER the debate?
He and Elizabeth went sledding with the kids. How cool is that?
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