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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:02 PM
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Dana MIlbank insists that the $400 dollar haircut story is a real
"phoniness meter" or whatever he called it...

Idiot. It has to do with traveling and a huge cowlick (as a graduate of Vidal Sassoon, London, I can tell you, that cowlick can be a huge problem and being butchered in the barber's chair could be fatal!

PS...please note that JE has been getting much closer haircuts...that is often a very good way to take control of cowlicks, etc. and also cuts down on fussing with a lot hair. Hats off to the campaign for going shorter!!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:05 PM
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1. Well he actually paid over $1,000 for a haircut,
so that must be one hell of a cowlick.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:11 PM
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3. How much does Hillary spend on her hair and makeup?
I mean, since you seem to think it matters.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:15 PM
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6. I don't give a damn about the cost of his haircuts,
but justifying it on the basis of a cowlick is plain silly. Who's taming the evil cowlick now?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:26 PM
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Sure, whatever you say,
As long as you don't give a damn.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:35 PM
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10. Ah, of course
skeptical little you. :eyes:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:40 PM
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15. Sorry-
Maybe it was a bad day, didn't mean to get snippy with one of my favorite people.:hi:
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:59 PM
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23. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHhahahahahahah
Good point.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:29 PM
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27. And her collagen...
that she gets to fill out her face.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:39 PM
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29. Next we'll hear from jen about her botox treatments.... please continue.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:13 PM
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5. Well, the charges take into consideration the travel involved....
Anyway, it seems those days are over....

At least for Edwards...the WaPo seems to think it's suddenly very important AGAIN....let's wonder why....
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:46 PM
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19. It smacks of Goring to me..
and that's exactly what it is. I wish people would just tell dana and his ilk to stuff it and write about something important if that wouldn't tax their brains too much and they could pry themselves from their bar stools.
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Andy823 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:55 PM
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21. The powers that be
Are getting scared that Edwards will pull it off and win, that's why they suddenly think it's "important". Only and idiot would think this is worthy of bringing back up from the past, and I guess the papers who are bringing it back up are run by "idiots!

This just show me that Edwards "is" the one to beat, and that the republicans are scard to death that they may just have to run against him, and as the polls show, he can beat any of the republicans, and that "fact" is coming out on CNN, MSNBC, and other news programs today. Now "that" is what scares them, the fact Edwards got some real time on in the media! :evilgrin:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:42 PM
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30. Are you kidding? Did he get a happy ending with it or something?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:08 PM
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2. Who cares, people pay $400 for a bottle of wine for dinner too.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:39 PM
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14. Exactly. A little perspective is long overdue.
These campaigns burn through money like wildfire.

And nobody wants to look like Nixon on teevee.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:12 PM
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4. I detest Milbank, he is always trying to excuse republican assholery with "Well democrats do it too"
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:33 PM
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8. His smirk has a "who's king of the schoolyard NOW?" look to it
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:35 PM
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12. absolutely.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:34 PM
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9. Milbank probably spends more on Makeup and Hairdye than Edwards does on Haircuts!
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 09:40 PM by KoKo01
Plus...throw in the Pimp Suits he spends big bucks for and his ties...and you got the Milbank Package. Bought and paid for along with his "smirks."
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:37 PM
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13. his hair dye is ridiculous, it's at least 3 shades too dark and the color is wrong
i bet his hairdresser hates him.

Men, if you dye your hair don't go too dark, it looks fake and it makes you look older.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:48 PM
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20. And he has the nerve
to bring up haircuts..expensive or not. They're trying to Gore Edwards cause they don't want him at any cost.

It's The Media, Stupid!

Not you!
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:26 PM
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7. Isn't it funny how MSM covers Dems vs. Repugs?
With Dems, it's all about haircuts, makeup and jewelry (pearls or diamonds?). With Repugs, it's how "important" the debates are. MSM still treats Repugs as if they're adults and Dems are bad children.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:35 PM
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11. This is great news!
It means that John Edwards is doing so well in Iowa that they will take *any* attack to try to cool down his campaign.

Ain't workin'.

:rofl:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:41 PM
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16. What's a cowlick? (nt)
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:24 PM
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25. A cowlick is when part of your hair wants to go it's own way
I think, but am not sure that most of the time they are in the front of the head. John Edwards has 2 from what I saw in his elementary school picture. So if you would look at him you would see his hair something like this \\\||||/// you see it a lot of times with girls with bangs, the hair doesn't quite want to lay against the forehead.

But, to take it a step further, it looks like a cow licked your head and your hair was standing up.

zalinda
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 11:37 PM
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28. Groan. Like a cow licked it?
I think that cutting it short could accomplish the same thing..

Thanks for the explanation.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 04:15 AM
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32. Yeah, it's a term that started in a rural area
And there is all kind of ways to fix it, but not every one is successful. I have a number of cowlicks, if my hair is cut too short, my hair will stand straight up, and I'm a woman, it's not a good look.

zalinda
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 12:00 AM
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31. In Edwards' case he has the classic positioning at the top of his crown at the
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 12:01 AM by Gloria
back of his head...and he also has a very problematical neckline. The classic way to control either is to let the hair grow longer so it weighs the errant hair down...in the case of the neckline, the longer hair covers the whorls of the hairline. The result is that a lot more attention has to be paid to styling it and keeping it neat.

I haven't seen his neckline or top recently. but I can see he has a good barber that is cutting his front and sides much shorter. This is an alternative to keeping it longer; if it can be pulled off the hair is easier to manage. It really is an art to blend all these techniques together when dealing with problem areas...
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:36 PM
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41. This thread has me wanting to see a picture of JE recently so I can understand.
Anyone have any recent ones?
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 05:48 PM
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39. The farmer.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:42 PM
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17. The part of that story that has significance (I think) is that
he chose to run a populist campaign and didn't realize that something like that and the giant new house would be an issue. I mean, wouldn't a candidate running on an animal rights platform make sure there pets were being well cared for? Or at least not put bear traps all over their back yard?

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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:00 PM
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24. it's more like someone running on an animal rights platform who wants everyone to have a pet
Edwards is trying to expand opportunities for others. Why shouldn't the guy who cuts his hair be well paid for it? Better a millionaire should be cheap?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:26 PM
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26. You know,
I never thought of it that way, that's a good point.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 11:14 AM
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37. I don't know. If you are trying to empower poor people,
you are saying the way to do that is to flaunt your wealth? That will make people feel empowered and connect with you? Inspire them to want to get rich too?

I'm not saying you have to live like a pauper, but I think it is just a bit thoughtless that it didn't occur to them that conspicuous consumption might be a problem in a populist campaign and adjust the lifestyle accordingly for a while.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 05:42 PM
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38. I'm in favor of rich people paying a lot for services
I'd rather they overpay somebody for a haircut than hoard the money.

A populist should want to spread the wealth around, and why shouldn't a professional stylist who goes out of his/her way to perform a service be well paid? Including travel time, how long did the haircut take? At least 2 hours, easy. Many lawyers make $200 an hour, including covering overhead. Why shouldn't Edwards pay a stylist that much?

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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 10:07 PM
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44. In a general way I agree.
But from a candidate running on this issue it seems more like a hunger advocate being conspicuously gluttonous.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:15 PM
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40. perfect analogy
Some people do see hypocrisy. There is hypocrisy all over politics, but that's kind of personal. When you are a part of the other America, it's hard not to take it personally.
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proudmoddemo Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:43 PM
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18. It is a phoniness meter issue
For reporters on television that also get expensive haircuts.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 09:56 PM
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22. It was true ... and it was explained
It was that high because he paid the stylist to come to him - and given the value of Edwards' time to the campaign it is justified. Where there was any problem was that it was billed to the campaign - but then it was said that it was an error and repaid.

In fact, the candidate's appearance matters and the cost was high because he was campaigning. I am not an Edwards' fan, but it was a valid cost, campaign paid or paid by Edwards.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 06:09 AM
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33. I have lots of reasons not to trust JE
his haircuts aren't one of them. However, if he is the nominee, don't think that this bullshit can't be damaging.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 06:46 AM
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34. Bob Somerby (the Daily Howler) smacked that idiot down
Edited on Wed Dec-12-07 07:09 AM by depakid
along with the rest of the Pravda crew yesterday (December 11).


THE WORST GENERATION: Parents should sit down with their children this week—and read to them from the Washington Post. They should tell their children, in no uncertain terms: You must never, ever embarrass your family by ending up like the folks at the Post.

Which part of the Post should they show to their children? They should show them the embarrassing series, called “The Front-Runners,” which the Post is currently running. Today, the victim is Candidate Edwards. As with Clinton, as with Romney, the Post’s profile contains four parts:

1. An insipid attempt at psycho-biography, written by one of the world’s dumbest people.
2. A piece called “How He’s Running.” (According to Kornblut, who writes today’s piece, “Edwards is running as ‘the son of a millworker.’”)
3. A piece called “How He Looks” (Robin Givhan).
4. A piece called “How He Talks” (Dana Milbank).

That’s right! In this morning’s Post, there’s a full report about John Edwards’ clothes—but no report about his proposals! Nowhere in these “front-runner” profiles does the Post explain what the candidates have proposed in the course of their White House campaigns.

By itself, that would be strange enough. But in its most open insult to the public, the Post has Givhan writing a report about each hopeful’s clothing. And the Post has Milbank telling the world how each candidate “talks.”


What impresses me is how so many Americans still take the Post seriously. I mean, really. How much more proof does one need to see that it's less than a shell of its former self- more akin to a British tabloid than an honest newpaper.
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:58 AM
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35. Mr. "Skull & Bones" Milbank shouldn't be talking about
a "phoniness meter" - maybe projection is slipping in here.

Dana T. Milbank (born 27 April 1968) is an American political reporter for The Washington Post. He is a graduate of Yale University, where he was a member of Trumbull College and the secretive society Skull and Bones.<1> <2> <3>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Milbank
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 09:30 AM
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36. I figure that when a haircut becomes an explosive issue for a candidate...
I figure that when a haircut becomes an explosive issue for a candidate, it's because there are no valid criticisms for that candidate to be found...

As silly and as puerile as The Haircut is to me, I'm sure there's an equal amount of melodramatic and self-wrought righteous indignation that a candidate received a haircut not of their liking.

But then, as I've neither chosen nor ruled out a candidate, I'm not (yet?) tempted to allow my baser instincts to overwhelm my brain.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:42 PM
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42. I don't doubt that the 400 dollar hair cut is true
A busy man like Edwards, needs a person to come to him to cut his hair, what is so bad about paying a person for his time and remember the better than 3 dollar a gallon Bush & republican gas or should I say fuel.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-12-07 08:44 PM
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43. Milbank's just jealous cuz he doesn't have good hair! nt
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