"I wish Hillary had married OJ"

[cali]

Evidently this is not only on a sign outside a restaurant in Georgia, but you can buy tee shirts and coffee mugs with that wish that Clinton had been brutally murdered. Not only is this Hate with a capital H, it's Misogyny with a capital M.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/9/14336/6751/134/419889

But the ugly crap isn't only coming from the right, there's also a recommended diary at kos drawing parallels between Clinton and the KKK.


It's all more than a little disturbing- and should be to everyone, including those who are strongly opposed to Clinton.

[Kucinich4America]

1. OK, let me be the first to condemn this one.

I do wish that Hillary had married some random unknown (but very nice) man in Illinois and had never been heard of, but I would never wish OJ Simpson on her, or any other woman. Except possibly Ann Coulter.

[cali]

3. Can we please even leave Coulter out of it-

even jokingly? And to assume Clinton would have been nothing without Bill, is also a wee bit sexist.

[Zueda]

6. Exactly...

She would of still gone on to be a successful corporate lawyer for Walmart at the Rose Law firm.

[cali]

9. Actually, judging from her early career

it's more likely that she would have been in the Senate, years prior to her election in 2000. She's certainly as smart and ambitious as, say, Maria Cantwell.

[Zueda]

10. No doubt....

The board members at Walmart had a great respect for Ms. Clinton. I'm sure they would have bought her a seat on the US Senate.

[cali]

13. what silliness.

while you're at it though, what's your comment on Edwards and Fortress. I mean isn't working for a Hedge Fund for a huge payday and making millions off sleazy hedge fund investments at the same time, worthy of your snark, or do you just love to wallow in hypocrisy?

[Zueda]

16. I suppose it would be hypocrisy if I were to support Edwards...

but I don't.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

18. Of course you don't!

No Dems por you!

:hi: MKJ

[salin]

2. can you imagine the outrage if a place of business

had a death-wish joke about a major republican candidate? It would be all over the news, major dems would be called up and asked if they are going to come out and condemn the actions of the business owner. The political contributions of the business owner would be tracked down and Joe Klien would write about the link between the business owner and any democratic party candidate to which the business owner had ever contributed...

[cali]

5. good point. you are absolutely right, but as I said

it goes waaay beyond one wingnut business owner. You can buy all kinds of crap with this message on it. This should be in the MSM.

[salin]

19. it should be... but it isn't

what I was trying to point out is that were this joke/deathwish were made about a leading republican - current sitting dems would be smeared with it even if they had nothing to do with it. All of the ugly implications you point out - would be pointed out in the msm and somehow attached to democratic figures who have no connection to it.

But with this nothing. Not even the questioning of the crassining of our society where this could be seen as appropriate humor.

[avrdream]

7. Agree:

Some horrible things have been posted about Hillary over the years without any serious condemnation from the powers that be. I don't know why but you are correct that this would have been viciously attacked had it been about a Republican candidate. Maybe Hillary's skin is a bit thicker but I'm disgusted by this type of crap!

[eleny]

4. Disgusting

[Adelante]

8. Ugh

Horrible.

[MGKrebs]

11. As it says later in that thread, there are a dozens of items on cafepress

with the same phrase.

So somebody who thinks that is funny who has kids will then wonder why their kids try to solve their problems with violence, right?

[frogmarch]

12. Yes, it's ugly crap

and it infuriates me.

The t shorts and mugs promoting hatred for HC and wishing her death will infuriate lots of other people too, I'm sure.

[NMMNG]

14. Sick beyond belief

I don't like HRC but wishing violence upon her (or anybody) is depraved.

[tammywammy]

15. That's disgusting

[Beacool]

17. One thing that I have always feared

is that if Hillary gets the nomination some nut will actually try to kill her (same goes for Obama). There are too many crazy people who are full of hate and who have been brainwashed by the extreme right. They might even think that it would be the "Christian" thing to do to get rid of someone who they fear as much as they abhor.

[EV_Ares]

20. The OJ sign is beyond any kind of decency, is sickening and so totally

disgusting, you really hate to give it any kind of talk or presence at all.

However, you bring up Edwards and his hedgefund involvement of which when you actually look at it. He is the one who brought about some postive change to it when they went public. The Washington Post commented on this some time ago. They also commented about ties to the hedge fund industry by Hillary, Guiliani of course, Dodd and Obama. So you need to group all of them in there but Edwards ties were somewhat more extensive of which he got out when the fund went public.

I don't see Edwards consultant status any worse than the others involvement in so many other things we really do not approve of. If you go after one, you have to go after them all. I still have a problem with Hillary and Rupert though.

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What ever happened to Edward's description of the "Two Americas" - (the very rich + the merely rich) and (the rest of us). Was it just overblown campaign rhetoric? Was his vision of defending the common person only so much hot air? Someone needs to figure this one out soon... Edwards still believes in those two Americas and he will continue trying to help those that need a lift up.

The same Post article also points out direct or indirect ties to the hedge fund industry by other presidential candidates - Hillary Clinton, Rudolph Guiliani, Christopher Dodd and Barack Obama. However, Edwards consultancy with Fortress since 2005 was quite extensive, which ended last year when the company went public. The article states that recently Fortress has stopped the practice of allowing their managing partners to use foreign offshore accounts as tax shelters:

.......John Edwards believes offshore tax shelters are wrong," Bedingfield said last week. "As president, he will end them. By voluntarily going public, Fortress has ended the practice of using offshore tax shelters for deferred compensation and has committed itself to a whole set of transparency and disclosure obligations that no other hedge fund has committed itself to before."............................................


***It appears that as a consultant, Edwards may have contributed to bringing about some degree of honesty and openness to at least one hedge fund company, which belongs to a highly secretive industry as a general rule.

(((from the Daily Kos)))

[NYCGirl]

21. That is disgusting. NT

[Perry Logan]

22. Show me someone who badmouths Hillary, and I'll show you a degenerate.

[CTyankee]

23. Bad, bad Karma for anybody to wish anybody dead. Period. n/t