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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:21 PM
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So Hillary fires bigots
Obama appears on stage with them. The contrast between the two candidates has never been more clear.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:22 PM
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1. Umm...Clinton HIRES bigots..then fires them when she gets caught...
...let's be accurate m'kay?
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:23 PM
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5. Accuracy demands..........after waiting 2 weeks.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:23 PM
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6. good job
the OP is stupid and you just brought the collective IQ of this thread even further down.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:24 PM
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9. Mom is that you?
No?

Then bugger off....
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:25 PM
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11. owned...
:rofl:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:26 PM
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13. If you don't know they are bigots til after you hire them,
and when you find out you let them go...that's the right thing to do. You don't go on stage with them, knowing they are before hand...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:22 PM
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2. oh fuck
this is just flamebait. give it up.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:24 PM
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8. But then poor Lerwin would have no reason to even be here
Have some sympathy.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:27 PM
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15. This is legitimate
We all remember how Obama handled the McClurkin situation. First, he tried to ignore those who claimed he was encouraging homophobia. Then he lied about what role McClurkin would play in the overall tour. With Hillary, we see what she thinks about bigotry. People who do this kind of shit get FIRED, rightfully so.
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:09 PM
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50. You forgot "he asked his supporters" to defend his position
HC was right -- when you discover a volunteer who doesn't hold with your standards, you fire them.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:12 PM
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67. Yes, that was very disappointing.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:22 PM
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3. which bigots did Hillary fire?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:23 PM
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7. The bigot volunteer that was spreading "Obama is muslim" materials around
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:54 PM
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24. I thought the official party line was that you can't fire a volunteer?
Better coordinate your talking points with the home office. While you're doing it, ask them why they waited two weeks, and only moved when they were finally caught.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:44 PM
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36. only let go when caught! You don't say.... Why was that?
At least the perp was able to get the word out before he got the axe.

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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:01 PM
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45. You must work for the Dept of Pre-Crime
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:22 PM
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4. If you're talking about McClurkin, Obama WAS NOT on stage with him. Obama did not
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 05:26 PM by NYCGirl
attend the concert. He was there on film, and as so, did not even know what McClurkin said.

Edited to add: But don't let facts get in your way.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:52 PM
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22. Oh, that's SOOOO much better. Only on tape? Good for him
Not even man enough to stand with his "friends"?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:12 PM
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34. Nice swerve there. Too bad the facts don't back up your whining. NT
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:57 AM
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44. Yeah, that makes all the difference. He was there on video ONLY.
Yeah, THAT'S the ticket.:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:02 PM
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:16 PM
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54. So Obama "appeared on stage" via the magic of a video screen!
And that makes him somehow responsible for everything that was said on that stage.

This seems to be the argument coming from the Hillary camp. :eyes:

GO NYCGirl! B-)
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:24 PM
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10. Recommended with gusto.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:29 PM
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17. lol
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:26 PM
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12. Let it go, my friend. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:26 PM
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:29 PM
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16. It was a REAL bomb! Check your facts before posting.
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 05:29 PM by MercutioATC
....oops....wrong Lirwin thread....
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:29 PM
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18. Man-
Sorry, but I have to say you do some really, really, ugly things.

And so does the people that work for and around your candidate.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:31 PM
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19. Hello? Pot, is that you? Yea I have someone you might like to meet
his name is Kettle, or, as he's known on DU- Asdjrocky.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:37 PM
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20. Give me just one example of one single flame thread I started here
I post opinion pieces. I often speak my mind. Tell me, when have you ever, or anyone else for that matter, seen me run one of these stupid, lazy, one or two line posts?

I'll wait.

By the way, I think you are hilarious.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:46 PM
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21. Stop changing the parameters of your claim
You've made plenty of ugly comments. If you don't like my legitimate OP's, then add me to your ignore list.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:53 PM
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23. My claim was:
"Sorry, but I have to say you do some really, really, ugly things.

And so does the people that work for and around your candidate"

To which you responded:

"Hello? Pot, is that you? Yea I have someone you might like to meet
his name is Kettle, or, as he's known on DU- Asdjrocky. "

And I then responded:

"Give me just one example of one single flame thread I started here
I post opinion pieces. I often speak my mind. Tell me, when have you ever, or anyone else for that matter, seen me run one of these stupid, lazy, one or two line posts?

I'll wait.

By the way, I think you are hilarious."

I don't get you. Half the time you don't even make since. Dose your mother know that you play on the computer?

Honestly, I've had better arguments with eight year olds.


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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:00 PM
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26. I don't make since?
huh?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:43 PM
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29. You said I've said ugly things in the past-
My question: show me one single example of what you did to start this thread. These one or two line zingers ain't to start an honest discussion, and you know that.

i'll repeat, I think the things you do here are ugly. Where is your defense for that?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:48 PM
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30. Was this comment of yours intended to start an honest discussion?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3762354#3762512

At least my posts don't attack the way people look. I'll leave that to the simple-minded haters, since you're so good at it.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:53 PM
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31. You are ridicules-
That was a response to a silly thread started by someone, and I did that as a joke.

Again, she me posts I start. Show me a one line hit piece I do. I know it's hard for someone who has never played on the level. But you're gonna have to do a hell of a lot better than that.

........
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:57 PM
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32. You said I say "ugly things" and asked me to prove that you do too
Edited on Wed Dec-05-07 06:58 PM by Lirwin2
It shouldn't matter whether those things are said as an OP or as a response to an OP. I stick to the issues, I don't attack peoples physical appearances. Choke on your own hate.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:09 PM
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33. Not really what I asked,
But that's fine. I don't expect you to recognize the truth about what you do here. In the end, we only have ourselves to answer to, and I never have a problem with that.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 05:56 PM
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25. And by the way-
I don't have anyone on ignore. You have nothing to say that could possibly hurt my feelings. And I believe in open and honest dialog.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:04 PM
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47. Well, you did say everyone was afraid of Edwards
IMO, it's pretty ugly to call people cowards

And wasn't that you who claimed that John Lewis was somehow "bought" by Clinton?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:15 PM
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53. You know you're now a joke to me-
Right?

Everytime I see your funny little face I just crack up.

Peas in a pod.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:19 PM
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56. Scurry along
It's not like I expected you to explain yourself
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:23 PM
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58. We are not at the same level my friend-
I've tried, there's no explaining things to you.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:30 PM
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60. We can agree on both of those
no one will ever see you explain yourself
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:35 PM
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61. Tell me-
Are you still beating your dog?

I've tried to explain myself to you, a number of times, but then you know that don't you?

Just keep baning your head against the wall there buddy.

Maybe, who knows?, you'll shake out some reason.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:38 PM
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62. Do you hate Hillary?
In one post you say you dont, and in another, you say you do
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:47 PM
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63. *crickets*
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:51 PM
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64. I don't.
I detest her policies and politics. I don't believe she has the right vision for our country. I don't like most of the people, I'm talking Mark Peen and the DLC here, who are behind her.

But hate? No, I don't really hate anyone. I think the word is over used here.

We disagree, that's all.

And where did I say I hate her? I guess maybe, in a heated moment, I might have said that. But I really try not to use that word. To me, that's like the word 'fuck', it should only be used when you REALLY want to make a point.

Honestly, I hope I answered your question.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:52 PM
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65. But you said that you hate her
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:03 PM
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27. I don't hink this e-mail was sent by a bigot. I think it was sent by someone
willing to do anything to stop Obama.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:49 PM
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37. Not an uncommon attitude in the Clinton campaign
I've held my tongue for the most part, but some of the stuff getting back to me from Iowa is just beyond the pale. It's the stuff you see when someone overbearing and arrogant finds out they may not have backed a sure winner like they thought. They just turn ugly.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:05 PM
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48. It reminds me of the "Senator from Punjab" memo
IIRC, Obama fired those paid staffers who were pushing the media to report this story
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 06:10 PM
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28.  Hillary fires

Blanks.....

Hillary with her friend and supporter Rupert Murdoch Owner of Faux "News"

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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 07:19 PM
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35. You Hillbots have no shame.
Team Hillary gets caught circulating FREEPER propaganda, and you try to spin it to her advantage. unfuckingbelievable..... :puke:
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 09:50 PM
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38. BINGO!
Hit the nail right on the head!

It is all about spin with them.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:11 PM
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40. Fucking disgusting piece of shit OP, even by Lirwin's lowly standards...
Not even worthy of a rebuttal.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:56 AM
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43. Fake outrage of the day.
:eyes:
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:19 PM
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55. waaahhhhHHHHH
You can dish it out but you sure can't take it.

Now take a few deep breaths and try to calm down if it's at all possible.
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Snarkturian Clone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 10:06 PM
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39. She's still a bad choice. NT
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:10 AM
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41. who did he appear on stage with?
link?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 11:54 AM
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42. Kick and recommend for Donnie Mcclurking. n/t
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TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:08 PM
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49. Posts like this just make me hate Hillary more. nm
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:13 PM
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51. Agreed.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:21 PM
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57. No, not ugly
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:15 PM
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52. Agreed.
Beyond pathetic.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:06 PM
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66. And your posts reasure me in my convictions regarding Obama: Inexperienced and unelectable.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 12:25 PM
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59. But surely ALL Christians hold beliefs that are irrational.
On the substance - I believe in equality for all regardless of sexual orientation.

I am confident that Barack Obama is completely cool with all kinds of diversity.

But I do have a difference of opinion with Obama on the place of religion in society.

As a non-believer, I consider that The Bible is a work of fiction and should be treated as such.

Once you start saying that some parts of The Bible are true - who decides where to draw the line?

But the fact is that Obama calls himself a Christian - together with around 80% of American voters.

I accept that I have to tolerate that some Christians hold beliefs that I consider irrational.

If we are being completely honest - I think they ALL hold beliefs that I consider irrational.

But if I believe in freedom of religion then I need to show a certain amount of tolerance.

And fortunately I am not running for public office, so I am free to offend the faithful.

Obama is trying to win the nomination by reaching out to as many groups as he can.

But Obama has never said that being gay is sinful, nor that gays can be "cured".

Here is where you can find an overview of Obama's record on LGBT equality issues:
http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/lesbianactivism/p/BarackObama.htm
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:18 PM
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70. I don't begrudge anyone their faith,
and it's fine that he doesn't want to offend Christians. What bothers me is that even after he knew that McClurkin was extremely offensive to the LGBT community, he still permitted him to MC & speak at his gospel tour. I know he's got a decent record on gay rights, but that stubborn dismissal of the gay community's protests, was reprehensible IMO.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:13 PM
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68. Actually, he wasn't on stage with him.
I'm an Edwards fan, but you don't need to slander Obama.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-06-07 02:14 PM
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69. This story has a Mitt Romney flare to it wouldn't you agree...?
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