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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:42 AM
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Second-tier Dems Getting a Look
If Clinton and Obama were arguing about anything other than experience, it wouldn't be possible for Biden, Chris Dodd or Bill Richardson to get the slightest traction, even with a better-than-expected finish. But by staking her claim on her preparation for the White House, Clinton has kicked off a fuller discussion on what constitutes real qualifications. Experience usually counts for nothing in presidential politics (remember graybeards like Scoop Jackson, Richard Lugar and Dick Gephardt going nowhere?), but this time a "double E" candidate - experience and electability - could at least become a factor.

After Iowa, the surviving white guy in a shrunken field will get a chance to stress his record, especially when the usual "buyers' remorse" sets in about the front-runner. On foreign policy, Biden persuaded a reluctant President Clinton to intervene militarily in Bosnia, which saved thousands of lives at little cost. Dodd authored the Central American peace plan in the 1980s that won a Nobel Prize for Costa Rican President Oscar Arias. Richardson struck advantageous deals with dictators on behalf of the Clinton administration.

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Second-tier candidates often get a second wind. Jerry Brown beat Jimmy Carter in a slew of late primaries in 1976, and threw a little scare into Bill Clinton by winning Connecticut in 1992. The most plausible long shot this time is Biden, who has done well (and controlled his mouth) in recent debates and generated a trace of "Joe Mo" in Dubuque and a few other pockets in Iowa. His problem is organization. Dodd has twice as many paid staffers on the ground as Biden, though he hasn't connected as well on the stump. Richardson's recent TV ads didn't light a fuse. But should one of them score in the Dec. 13 Des Moines Register debate (or, better yet, win the paper's endorsement), he could break the 15 percent "viability" threshold in enough caucuses to stay in the race.

Voters usually prefer youth and energy to wisdom and experience. Every Democratic president since James Buchanan has taken office by 60, with all but two 55 or younger. Obama at 46 is closer to the norm than Biden at 65, Dodd at 63 or Richardson and Clinton at 60. The latter resemble seasoned senators Stuart Symington, Hubert Humphrey and Lyndon Johnson, who lost the 1960 primaries to a lightly regarded 42-year-old colleague named John F. Kennedy. But should Iowa yield a surging Obama and a wounded Clinton, voters will likely give a second look to someone else.

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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:46 AM
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1. Most excellent! nt
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:50 AM
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2. The second tier needs a look....
Richardson, Biden, and Dodd have a lot more political experience to bring to the table.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 11:50 AM
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3. Leave it the non-MSM to get the real story.
I saw this dynamic here in 2004 and I'm seeing it repeated. I still think we will have a quality candidate in '08.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:03 PM
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4. One drawback of negative campaigning is that voters might believe...
...everyones criticisms of each other leaving the whole field undesireable. People are sick of Clintbamadwards.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:04 PM
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5. that's why i'm backing Edwamaton
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:11 PM
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6. I prefer Bidodson.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:14 PM
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7. Thanks for posting that..
I could support, Biden/Dodd, Biden/Richardson easily.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 12:59 PM
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8. Second vote for Biden/Richardson
since Biden and Dodd are so similar, I would like to keep Dodd in the Senate and get a Hispanic Governor from the West to be VP. That will satisfy the ones who want to make history and get us two foreign policy experts from different sides of the country to beat McGiulRomHuckSon.
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 01:13 PM
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9. Thanks for posting. This 2-person only game is bad news, especially when there are so many
"second tier" (ugh) candidates with a great deal to say, and much to contribute to the dialogue. I'm increasingly turned off by the Clinton-Obama circus, and want to hear other voices. I mean, for heaven's sake, Bill Richardson was an ambassador to the UN and a Secretary of Energy... nothing interesting to talk about there, I guess. Yeesh.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:04 PM
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10. Thank you -- interesting article. K&R. nt
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-05-07 04:10 PM
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11. All these candidates deserve a "second" look, or first look for that matter...
thanks to the MSM for not giving us equal access to all. Thanks for posting !
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