I was thinking about something important, regarding Joe Biden....

[1corona4u]

Seriously. Given that Joe Biden already has the respect of leaders around the world, IF he were to be the nominee, and IF he became the president, think how much faster we could get our credibility and reputaion back. I mean, think about it. Does anyone not think that these leaders of the rest of the world, wouldn't say to the people of their countries; "this is a man we can trust"..

I think they all would. Which would expedite mending/repairing our relationships around the world. They all know him well. They all know he is of upstanding moral fiber. They know he's a man of his word. I think this is a very important asset Joe has over all of the other candidates.

Just my thoughts on it....

[malta blue]

1. k&r

"applause:

[JeffR]

2. Agreed, and I'm not a Biden supporter. But I agree with you.

:toast:

[1corona4u]

3. Thanks, you're very gracious.

:-)

[JeffR]

5. No, not at all

We just need to acknowledge the truth around here a little more.

[1corona4u]

13. I agree.

[Steely_Dan]

18. Thanks for Being So Honest

That is not easy when you support someone else. I really appreciate it.

-Paige

[PatSeg]

4. You know the rest of the world is following our politics

closely. What happens here affects the entire planet. I would imagine there are many who would like to see someone like Joe Biden in the White House. Then they could sleep better at night too.

[1corona4u]

7. You're so right...

It does affect the entire planet.

[K Gardner]

6. I have to agree with that assessment - Biden may not be known as well to the

citizens of foreign countries, but their leaders certainly know and respect him. That says so much in today's very frightening climate.

[1corona4u]

8. Exactly...

and that might just go a long way in changing some of the radical views/opinions of the USA.

[Maggie_May]

9. My 18 year old daughter has been studying

all the candidates and has made her decision. I did not influence her at all in this decision I always try to bring my children up to think for themselves. Well Katie decision is Joe for lots of reasons education the war and for his strong foreign policy she also thinks that should be a huge part in the next election. I am a old time and have watch Joe on the floor for years and would love and feel very secure if he was in the White House.
OMG I must be doing something right with Katie

[1corona4u]

11. Tell her I said she is a VERY smart girl!!

I will say this. I was also thinking, Joe has one last chance, the way I see it, to be president. Obama, and John, both being younger, could have another chance. Hillary-not sure. I just hate to see us waste this opportunity right now. I hope that came across right, because it was not in anyway reverse age discrimination, LOL, but it was just another thought I had. They have other chances, Joe does not. We will not have this chance with him again. Besides that, he would never run again.

[PatSeg]

12. I think you must be

I've encouraged my children to think for themselves as well. I used to frustrate them when I wouldn't give them black and white answers and often responded to their questions with a question.

They are both Biden supporters. My son came to it all on his own when he saw him on TV back in '04. I turned my daughter towards him by showing her his IAFF speech; didn't need to say a word. Biden did it all.

[lyonn]

33. Same here

Showed my daughter and granddaughter a couple of my fav Biden videos and they were impressed. Yup, Biden speaks for himself. Too bad the media keeps him hidden!! Although.... he was great tonight on Chris Matthews.

[1corona4u]

41. Yes, he was...

[Dhalgren]

10. Biden is not my first pick, but I agree with your assessment of his standing.

I have no bones to pick with Biden. He is a Democrat I could vote for. I could get behind Biden...

[Steely_Dan]

19. Thanks, D!

It's nice to see someone who can agree on this point and yet, not have Biden as their first choice. Can I ask who you do support? If not, that's cool.

-Paige

[Dhalgren]

38. I'm a Kucinich man. But I am keeping an eye on Biden and Dodd.

Edwards would be a fourth (maybe). :hi:

[Steely_Dan]

39. As I've Said Before...

DK is in many ways the heart and soul of the progressive side of the Democratic Party.

-Paige

[1corona4u]

54. You, my friend, are the most reasonable DK

supporter I have seen on this thread. Thank you for being so gracious.

[Tashca]

14. exactly

With less than a month for me to make my decision I have came to the conclusion that Joe Biden is the best choice. Historically I have based my decisions on domestic issues mostly. With this countries reputation hanging by a thread......I feel he rises above the rest of the field in his experience and ability to mend our relationships with other countries. I think this is what separates him from the other candidates.

[1corona4u]

16. Thank you...

You're not in Iowa by any chance, are ya? LOL...no matter, we're glad to have you!!

[Tashca]

17. yes

yes I am in Iowa......

[Steely_Dan]

20. Very Cool! n/t

[1corona4u]

21. THANK GOD, LOL...

[WheelWalker]

23. To DU, welcome you are !!

[1corona4u]

24. Come join us in the Biden supporters group too if you want...

we're a friendly bunch.....it's our retreat area...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=404

[WheelWalker]

26. I'll second voice that !

[K Gardner]

31. Hear, hear ! Welcome to DU... the Biden people here are wonderful.

I was undecided when I came here. Now I'm decided AND addicted to this forum. Next door over: DU Anonymous.

[1corona4u]

35. LOL....

[Auntie Bush]

48. Welcome to DU Bellator

:hi:

[adapa]

65. NH voter

I assume you're in Iowa. I'm in NH & have not made my choice yet.
I am torn between Biden & Clinton. I dislike Obama & Edwards.
I can't help being influenced by the polls.
If I vote for Biden & Obama wins by a small margin, I will kick myself for the next 4 years.
help please...anyone

[Tashca]

70. I understand your dilemma

I was torn between Biden and Edwards. I certainly will not tell you how to vote as no one needs waste their time telling me how I must vote. I spent considerable time comparing the two. Based on my experiences and views on life.... Biden fit the best. None of these candidates are perfect. You know Iowa is a big deal for the Edwards camp. I understand that....and I know Biden is a long shot. I plain and simply am voting for the person I think is best suited to lead this country. For me ....if Edwards loses by the proverbial one vote....so be it. I voted my conscience. There is a large difference between a primary and a caucus. I have the opportunity to influence others...and be influenced. So my choice can potential add more than one vote if I can influence others. Yours only counts as one vote. .....and if nothing else I say adds meaning to your question. Let me ask you to forget the dang polls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[1corona4u]

73. Exactly...vote your conscience...

and ignore the stupid polls, that change minutely. I won't vote for Obama if he is the nominee, because I don't trust him, and I can't go against my conscience. I don't care, I just won't vote at all if he is the nominee.

I just found this site, which I think is very telling, particularly in regards to Obama, and Biden. Joe is still doing HIS job, while Obama is all about the race...

Type in their names, using the all american patriot, and you will see the difference and why I will not vote for Obama. He has not done his job in the senate.

http://www.allamericanpatriots.com/google_search

This site tracks news and important statements, and such, from all of DC.

[adapa]

75. If I was in Iowa I'd caucus for Biden

I have to say if I was in Iowa with the Caucus I would stand up for Biden- especially if I was an articulate type<grin>

I will attempt to ignore the polls but a strong showing in Iowa will make voting for Biden in NH a lot easier! I'm trying to get in contact with my local Biden office to chat with someone.
thanks for responding

[nyc 4 Biden]

15. well said! nt

:kick:

[gateley]

22. VERY important point. This is a CRITICAL time for us and for the world. We

really, really need this man right NOW. The others might have somewhat of the same approach, but he has the established relationships and dialogue and has a HISTORY with the other world leaders. They would be more inclined to trust and work with someone they "knew".

[Auntie Bush]

50. They all know and respect Hillary too. That's why I'm torn between the two.

I don't care...just as it's one of those two. I don't think we'd be in good reliable hands with the others. I'm tired of Presidents having to learn on the job. Normally, I wouldn't care but after the one we have now and the world situation...it's an EMERGENCY and we NEED someone in the know. I remember Clinton making some mistakes too... but now he has more experience and a different world perspective and he could be a big help in pointing Hillary in the right direction. I don't think he'd be in anyones administration...but I'm sure he'd help anyone who seeks his advice... including Biden's.

[1corona4u]

74. Kick

[AndyTiedye]

25. Where Was All That Upstanding Moral Fiber When the BANKRUPTCY BILL Was Before the Senate?

[1corona4u]

27. Perhaps it was in the thoughts of

mothers and children, who were in need of their child support payments, and alimony, which was the reason he voted for it. To protect women and children. To prevent the deadbeat dads from trying to stiff them. Go look it up on his senate page if you doubt it, Look under floor statements, 2005. I have probably posted it here 100 times, but apparently you missed it. Sometimes, life requires compromises to get things done. I think Joe had to make that tough decision.

You're not a deadbeat dad, are ya?

[AndyTiedye]

57. Nope, and I Don't Owe Nobody Nothin'

But I don't buy it.

He could have introduced an amendment to address just that issue, and it would have passed unanimously.
He didn't, because that allowed him to hide behind the women and children while doing the bidding of MBNA.

[BigBearJohn]

62. Rather than argue the issues, you have to make it PERSONAL by

saying "You're not a deadbeat dad, are ya?"
Like a bully in the schoolyard, you attempt
to win your argument through name-calling
and intimidation, rather than intelligent
discourse. Does it make you feel superior?

[Laurab]

28. I agree, too. I wish he were polling higher.

There is one person I really do NOT want to see get the nomination, so my vote will be for whoever has the best chance of challenging that person. If I didn't feel so strongly about that, I'd vote for Joe. I'm still hoping, though, that he becomes a real contender - he deserves to be.

[1corona4u]

30. What will you do if he shows well in Iowa?

[Laurab]

37. I'll be ecstatic! I'm in NY so anything can happen

and I'd be thrilled to pull the lever for Joe Biden if there's a chance in hell he can win.

[1corona4u]

40. I think if he makes a showing in Iowa, there will be no stopping him

because people will finally say, "HEY, he does have a chance", and they will go for it. People all aross this country love him, but they all say the same thing; "I'd vote for him in a heartbeat, if I thought he had a chance"..so we have to give him that chance.

[Usrename]

29. He's not a leader.

He says that he'll lead an effort to impeach if Bush starts another illegal war.

That's just stupid on so many different levels, like it will be too late to prevent another war then, and also the hope he has of finding any support at all for that kind of action during the World War III fighting that would be going on is pretty naive for a guy like Biden.

In any event, he doesn't want to put his neck out leading an effort to impeach over the first illegal war, even when it's the best way to try and redeem our national reputation.

He seems pretty useless, if you ask me.

[1corona4u]

32. DK supporters don't think anyone's a leader, but DK,

so your comments don't surprise anyone, at all. I don't think DK's a leader, so we're even.

[jillan]

44. Funny how the 'peace candidate's ' supporters are all so hostile?

:crazy:

[1corona4u]

46. AHAHAHAAHa hahahaha..true...

[Auntie Bush]

51. Please...

remind me not to ask you.

[Lucinda]

52. Not a leader?

Have you looked at his senate record?
http://biden.senate.gov/issues/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden
http://biden.senate.gov/

[Usrename]

58. Sure I have, and he's a great Senator. One of the best.

One of the few who could hold the line with Strom and Jessie. I know who he is. But he does seem awful lost right now. He thinks he can impeach Bush AFTER he starts WWIII in earnest. Who is he kidding? If our leadership can't rise up and oust these guys out of necessity, after the loose nukes incident, then they don't understand the basic fundamentals.

Having a half-dozen warheads get loose outside the chain of command is about as bad a scenario as anyone should be able to imagine. THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED! How does any rational person think that the best time to deal with these crazy people would be AFTER they bomb Iran? That's just crazy talk. Crazy.

What is he thinking? Does he think anyone will side with him an the Iranians against our own president after a full-on shooting conflict is sparked? If he really believes his own rhetoric it is a good indication he gone round the bend.

[jenmito]

34. He'd make a great VP.

Sadly, he doesn't have either the money nor the support to be president.

[Think82]

61. Starting to get afraid of ol' Joe, aren't you?

It's okay, I'm sure he might pick your candidate for HIS VP. : ) Obama seems to have some learning to do since he insistson missing important votes regarding international relations.

[justinrr1]

36. Couldnt agree more!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

42. Excellent point. Ready on day one minus 100.

[PatSeg]

56. Now Hillary is using that line

Other candidates have been borrowing from Joe and the media gives them a pass.

[OwnedByFerrets]

43. Edwards to work on the Domestic probs we face and

Biden to work on the International issues.....what a dream ticket that would be......or Richardson.....either one works.

[1corona4u]

60. I get the feeling that they don't like each other...

maybe that's just me though, but I never see them close to each other or anything...in fact, I can't remember ever seeing them speak at all...I've seen John saying "Joe's right, or I agree with Joe", but, hmm...now you have me thinking...

[kad7777]

45. BIDEN/OBAMA '08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUC8LeZ1hM4

[1corona4u]

47. I'd take that......

I just don't think Obama is ready for P right now, but in 4 years, he would be...or 8...

[BigBearJohn]

49. Didn't Biden vote FOR the bankruptcy bill?

[1corona4u]

53. Why yes, he did, Kooch lover...

See post # 27.(I get really bored responding to this question...)
By the way, I am fully behind his support of that bill.

[WheelWalker]

59. I have to admit, I just love your attitude. No retreat...No surrender. After all, this ain't no

fuck'n discotheque, is it.

[BigBearJohn]

63. I figured that. You're not a Republican by chance, are you?

On edit: Just for the record, I would have
voted for Biden if he hadn't voted for the
Bankruptcy Bill.

[1corona4u]

64. It's a to bad you're a one issue voter....

And no, I'm really an Independent, turned dem, so I could vote for Biden in the primaries. But I guess traces of my conservative side still pop up once in a while...

[Dhalgren]

68. I support Kucinich and I am a multi-issue voter (well, to be honest

the number of issues are rather limited), but I am also a "conscience" voter. This is why I will have serious difficulty voting for certain of the Democratic candidates. But I can and definitely would vote for Biden. Is Senator Biden perfect? No, certainly not. Is he honest? Yes. Is he straightforward? Yes. Can we trust him? Yes. Is he experienced and intelligent enough? Yes and yes.

As I said, he isn't my first choice and I do not agree with him on numerous issues, but I believe he is capable and trustworthy - and right now, that is enough for me. I would choose Biden over any of the "top" three...

[1corona4u]

69. Exactly, and thank you.

[jillan]

72. Didn't Dennis vote AGAINST expanding children's healthcare?

[slipslidingaway]

76. Dennis, yes and no on SCHIP, See this link, guess you missed

my reply to you on the prior thread.

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3775695&mesg_id=3775891

[AuntPatsy]

55. I would have to agree with you, he is respected by other government leaders...

a definate must for whomever gets our nomination.

[Justice]

66. Agree, that is a big reason I wanted Al Gore, but agree Biden fits that bill also

[1corona4u]

67. True, I liked Gore....

in fact, I voted for him....and it would be so, so, different right now if Bush hadn't been selected to be our resident.

[jillan]

71. And the world leaders call him before they call anyone in the Bush admin

That tells me all I need to hear.

They already view him as a leader they can trust.

[PatSeg]

77. I can easily picture Biden in the Oval Office

talking to world leaders. He emanates genuine strength and leadership. He could end of being the best president of a generation.

[1corona4u]

78. That's because he tells them straight up...

what the truth of a situation is...