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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:32 PM
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Bill Bennett suggests the gay general at the Pug debate was a Hillary plant
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 09:54 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
For those who "missed" the pug debate, Brigadier General Keith H. Kerr, a gay retired Brigadier General was allowed to ask a question about gays in the military, then allowed to comment on the lameness of the candidates answers. It was pretty tough on the pugs.

Bennett came on CNN after the debate and said he's getting a bunch of emails saying the general on Clinton's "gay steering committee" (On edit: That seems to be accurate, and he was a Kerry backer also)

Anderson Cooper disavows knowledge of it.

Expect a world of whining from the usual suspects.

All I can say is that if Hillary can plant questions at the Republican debate, she's doing something right.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:36 PM
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1. Hey Kurt, I only caught the end of that guy, when he was questioning McCain...
Who else answered his questions? All of them?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:37 PM
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4. Duncan Hunter was the other answerer (if there were more than 2 I don't recall)
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 09:38 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:36 PM
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2. I'm NOT a Hillary fan, but OH PLEASE. that is desparate.
The was the worst moment of the debate. Pretty awful to have a man who served this country brought to tears by ignorance.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:39 PM
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6. The audience booed the poor guy
Whatever happened to "support the troops"?
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:10 PM
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27. But why was he given a microphone at all?
None of the other questioners were. They all had their 30 second videos and that was it.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:11 PM
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29. I remember in the Dem debate they gave the mic to a guy in the audience too
Beats me why they would do it, though.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:37 PM
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3. Yes, the Clinton's have the best opertives on payroll..
watch your back Obama & Edwards.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:44 PM
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10. yeah....sneaky gays on the payroll. watch out. nt.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:45 PM
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12. Bennett needs to check under his bed tonight for "teh gayz"!
:rofl:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:38 PM
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5. The point is that Bill Bennett never served a day in uniform
while we have gays and lesbians buried at Arlington.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:41 PM
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7. Sorry guys..he is affiliated with the campaign
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 09:43 PM by KennedyGuy
here is the link from Hillarys site listing him:

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=219...

but it really doesn't matter..
doesn't mean Hillary planted him..he has a letigitamate concern..
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:44 PM
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11. yup, it doesn't matter, the issue needs to be addressed.
It needs to be addressed at a DEM debate also, Hillary "plant" or not.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:46 PM
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13. Thanks for the info. The pukes will be cryng like little girls for DAYS about this.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM
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16. Oh..I agree..and the media will enable them fully...
the fact that the guy was gay general will be ignored and they will insist that he was a plant despite there being no evidence..
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:36 AM
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37. Just as long as we
don't cry if (and when) they plant (if they haven't already) questioners in the Dem. debates.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:49 PM
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20. wow, good thing I didn't bet Bennett on that one!

too funny though, I will give Hillary points on that one, and I will even hold my negative comment to give Hillary supporters their moment.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:51 PM
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22. yeah, he's a gay soldier asking about gays in the military...
Would someone who's black be prohibited from asking any other candidates a question relating to issues concerning black people because he advises another candidate? I'd certainly hope not.

Anyway, the only way I'd find the Hillary connection to be a problem is if it were during a debate that Hillary's taking part in, because it would be reasonable to suspect she'd already know the question's coming. Since she wasn't there, I don't see how it matters, as all of the participants were on equal ground in responding to the question.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:16 PM
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30. That's a big fuck up by CNN.
But it was a great way to get the issue discussed and didn't ultimately hurt the debate.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:44 PM
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33. Good work! You pretty much neutered all the doubters here
n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:42 PM
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8. and no one asks him ..
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 09:45 PM by stillcool47
to back up his assertion? Or...what kind of affiliation? Is she working to over-turn "Don't ask don't tell", and if so, would there not be members of the military that support her efforts?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM
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19. He has a valid complaint, insofar as I'd be pissed if a questioner picked by CNN for a Dem
debate was affiliated with one of the pug campaigns.

But, you know what? FUCK 'EM. Score one for our side.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:43 PM
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9. The delusional sack of shit also claims Mitt won the debate!!!
:rofl:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:47 PM
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14. IS HE WILLING TO PUT SOME MONEY ON IT?????
I kill myself :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM
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15. Who cares? Dude asked a legitimate question.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM
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17. Poor Bill.... all these years as an expert compulsive gambler
and he still don't know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:48 PM
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18. Oh please. There was going to be a gay-related
question from someone.

If not him, from someone else.

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:50 PM
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21. My hat's off to Team Clinton if the General was a plant
It was oddly amusing to see the Repugs openly disrespect the General...after all, hating gays in public is a huge moneymaker for them.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:52 PM
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23. Kerr was on Kerry's Steering Committee also...
For whatever that's worth to you.

http://www.isebrand.com/e-pamphlet12.htm
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 09:54 PM
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24. Thanks for the info
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:02 PM
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25. And be sure and read his new book:
Bill Bennett: Dispatches from The Fever Swamps.

One gets the feeling that one day, on TV, he will snap out and start masturbating furiously and babbling incoherently, then be hauled off by six burly stagehands, never to be seen again.

A Hillary plant. :eyes:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:04 PM
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26. More importantly: he's also a Log Cabin Republican
and if this doesn't get mentioned as often in the next day's new cycle, we should keep emailing and yelling until it does:

http://online.logcabin.org/photo_gallery/2004_conventio...
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:11 PM
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28. Wow... gay republicans for Hillary. (Is it the Joan Crawford thing?)
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:20 PM
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31. The Brigadeer General was the only highlight of the evening. ..n/t
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 10:34 PM
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32. There had to be one of the other G's to end God and Guns.
I have a feeling that an elderly 30+ year service flag officer gets to ask a single question when he wants to ask one at a public event! Would you turn him down? I see AC didn't.

All in all, rather uneventful, a lot less "Reagan" than the last time the Republic show was on, so not a complete rerun. Always good for a few laughs when one called out the other for not being conservative or loving Jesus, Friedman, or Joseph Smith (as the case might be)enough.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:48 PM
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34. Bennett also thought Mittens won the debate
a truly absurd conclusion. What I saw from him was the strangest and most confused politican in America.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 11:54 PM
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35. This was SO irresponsible - but not surprising
If Bennett really suspected this person was a plant and that CNN should address it, he could easily have mentioned it off-camera to one of the several producers who were surely hovering around him.

His point was not to alert CNN to a problem, but to smear Hillary - and to signal all of the other right-wing sites to run with the claim, whether or not it's true.

Now, even if it's completely debunked, it's out there in the atmosphere.

He served his purpose. And CNN gave him the platform.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:26 AM
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36. Exactly-he mentioned how he was getting emails on this
which tells me that they let it go for the GOTCHA moment.

Bennett is such a douchebag.
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RichGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 07:42 AM
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38. Those here...
Edited on Thu Nov-29-07 07:45 AM by RichGirl
...who bash Hillary for her tactics: keep in mind that what she is doing to her primary opponents she will do to a greater extent to her republican opponent. If we were going against reasonable people in a fair fight I would not like these tactics. But they fight dirty and we need someone who will beat them at their own game.

"Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." Hillary quietly forgave Bill. The fury must be bottled up and she can use it to blast her opponent. (If she wins, that is...don't want to sound presumptious.)
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 09:12 AM
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39. Yep..I give props to Hillary if she did
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