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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:00 PM
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Poll question: Now is it OK to not support Kucinich?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:04 PM
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1. Hmmm... Can you provide a little bit Less context?
:shrug:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:05 PM
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3. Is it OK to think that he should not be the Democratic nominee?
Especially since he's considering that Ron Paul be his running mate?
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:08 PM
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5. Ah. Well now you've actually asked a question that can be answered.
I think RP is a stupid choice for a VP. But I think we'd have a president who would fight to implement some very truly liberal policies. The VP would either go along, or stand back. I doubt RP would be another Darth Cheney.

So, support him or don't. That's your choice. But I still support him.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:04 PM
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2. Why are you obsessed with people not
supporting Kucinich.

This seems to be a peculiar pattern with you.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:06 PM
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4. Probably because people imply that he's completely off limits.
I'm like hello, he's running against seven other candidates, I think he knows he'll get criticism along the way.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:13 PM
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7. That's a pretty general statement. And now you're
insinuating vis-a-vis your poll that it's wrong to support a Democratic candidate.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:15 PM
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8. If you want to take it that way, I cannot stop you. n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:24 PM
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9. That's fine. It just doesn''t seem healthy harboring so
much animosity toward a candidate based on something he hasn't done.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:39 PM
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16. They only bite when you poke at them.
just like all the other candidate supporters here.

or were you expecting a hug?
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Spirit of 34 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:39 PM
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17. Because he's a right-wing Democrat
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:46 PM
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Spirit of 34 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:59 PM
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22. I've lurked long enough to pick out the conservative Dems and DLC-types
It's not all that difficult to ascertain.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:48 PM
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34. Are you calling Kucinich a right winger??
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 07:49 PM by Kucinich4America
And I suppose Bernie Sanders is your idea of a neocon fascist? :rofl:
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Spirit of 34 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:40 PM
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40. No, I'm not, actually
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:41 PM
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41. Ok, now I see where you're going
Sorry about that.... been a long day.
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Steepler0t Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:11 PM
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6. Wise man say:
Reach across aisle to republican, get sticky hand.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:47 PM
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21. Reach across aisle, or under bathroom stall?? n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:25 PM
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10. How many times you gonna ask this question?
You want Dk supporters to dump him. I get it. I really do.

Not gonna happen.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:27 PM
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11. Not what I said. n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:33 PM
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12. Go make a new poll. n/t
.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:35 PM
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13. .
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:37 PM
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14. He writes very cryptically about Kucinich so he can
leave the window of denial cracked just enough.

If only he knew he's not fooling anyone.

Maybe he does.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:44 PM
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19. OK now I'm like really lost.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 05:45 PM by LoZoccolo
What am I trying to fool people about again? When you said that thing about "insinuating vis-a-vis your poll that it's wrong to support a Democratic candidate" I figured you'd just try to find out where you messed up in coming to that conclusion, but now that you're going around talking about me to other people, you can explain how you get from my poll to this insinuation.

I think you've insinuated that you don't think people should vote for Obama a few times, haven't you?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:26 PM
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25. You're insinutating that people should not vote for
Kucinich the same way that I *of course* insinuate that gay people should not vote for Obama because he embraced a notorious homophobe.

The difference is I admit it openly.

You insinuate cryptically.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:31 PM
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26. I think my un-support of Kucinich is anything but cryptic. n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:43 PM
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27. That's interesting. Because when I asked you up thread,
you responded, "If you want to take it that way, I cannot stop you. n/t"

Perhaps we're making progress.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:23 PM
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31. That might be because you said...
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 07:31 PM by LoZoccolo
And now you're insinuating vis-a-vis your poll that it's wrong to support a Democratic candidate.


Really, if you're that lost in trying to understand what I was saying, it's not my job to give you directions. I'm not going to go back and forth trying to defend myself against some out-of-the-blue accusation that doesn't make sense; maybe if you bothered to qualify it I would. If you want my real opinion, or are confused about it, ask me, don't accuse me.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:41 PM
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32. LoZoccolo, I'm not "lost in trying to understand" what
you're saying.

I'm clever enough to read through your ambiguity. Trust me.

I'm simply cross examining you, since you refuse to just come out and say it.

Even the wording of your poll could be characterized as confusing to some who are not familiar with your MO regarding Kucinich/Paul

Come on now.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:47 PM
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33. Lame. n/t
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:57 PM
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37. It sure is. n/t
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:38 PM
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15. Other: It was ALWAYS OK to not support Kucinich.
To each his own...
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:40 PM
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18. Feel free to walk about the cabin.
You are free to support or not support whomever you choose.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:01 PM
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23. If he honestly thinks he would like Paul as a running mate, then
I have to re-think my support for him. For him to even want Paul would make me question his judgment.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:03 PM
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24. Only if he chooses Paul as VP.
apparently.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:44 PM
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28. IMO, it's almost mandatory to not support DK
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:51 PM
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35. lol!
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:52 PM
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36. Mandatory for WHAT, exactly?
Other than DLC membership. That's a given.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:55 PM
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42. Mandatory to make a funny remark
Lighten up Francis
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:44 PM
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29. Assuming you mean for President
The answer would be yes, Paul is a horrible choice but I understand what he is trying to do. And it is O.K. not to support any candidate if you feel strong enough against him or her. And that includes people giving support to Nader when they felt that neither side was for them. (Although I am sure most people regret that decision after learning more about Gore and living with Bush) As for a lot of the ideas he promotes the answer would be no. He deserves , a great deal of credit for standing out and speaking for what he believes is correct as opposed to what he thinks it will take to get elected. I can't think of any candidate that is even close to Dennis in standing behind his beliefs and attempting to action. Some have alluded that you do not like Kucinich and truthfully I can not comprehend how anyone could hate him. If he pulls a Lieberman and runs as an independent I will then think he is a piece of shit. If he continues down the current path and tries to get the other candidates to take principled positions then I think he is great.

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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:54 PM
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30. Yes. The Ron Paul thing is a MAJOR screw-up.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 06:54 PM by Perry Logan
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:16 PM
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38. I believe you're in vogue now.
You da man. Good work.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 08:37 PM
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39. Of course the comment is ridiculous because it has
always been ok not to support him. And as we continue the Dennis bash fest here people ought to keep in mind he is the only presidential candidate holding a meeting on the constitution. How pathetic of him, right? What a pathetic man. You are right to bash him. The only true progressive is now too rightwing for the corpocrats. What a joke.
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