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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:55 PM
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The Atlantic: Obama Camp Spreads False Claim About Hillary Healthcare
Atlantic Umpire: Did HRC Oppose A Mandate In The 90s?

That's the claim from the Obama campaign today.

But the charge is hard to square with the fact that Clinton's 1993 Health Security Act did indeed contain an individual mandate.

What Clinton opposed was an a la carte mandate proposed by John Chafee, one that would have scrapped the entire employer based system in favor of a government mandate that everyone purchase insurance -- without a government guarantee of help to those who couldn't afford it.

Indeed, the plan had little in the way of subsidies for those who couldn't afford it -- they'd be covered, for the time being, under existing government programs. Chafee's plan was premised on the idea that only with a large enough pool of premiums from young, healthy people could the insurance industry contain costs and offer basic insurance products at a lower rate.

Chafee's plan was called by Democrats the "individual mandate" plan, which sounds enticing to today's ears... but it's not the same as the plan Clinton proposed in September of 2007, which includes generous government subsidies for the poor and a menu of options for small businesses (a very modified version of "pay or play").

Politically, it's going to be hard to argue that Clinton's 1993 plan, which popularized the concept of "government-run universal health care," was somehow not premised on the idea of required, universal coverage.

"For that is how most of my colleagues, Republican and Democrat, enter the Senatetheir words distorted, and their motives questioned," Obama writes in The Audacity of Hope. As Senator Clinton might today say: "Indeed."

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/11/at...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:58 PM
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1. Obama has issued two positions on government mandates of health care in the last week.
Today in a conference call - In a conference call to announce the personal endorsement of Linda Nelson, president of the Iowa State Education Association, Obama said that he would fine parents in order to enforce the mandate in his health insurance plan that all children be covered.

I would sign them up in school in the same way they would get inoculated. I would fine parents if form some reason they refused. I am happy to be very clear on how we would enforce the mandate, Obama said. He went on to say that he believed that the vast majority of American parents wanted to ensure that their children did receive health coverage."

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/28/48504...

All of 4 days ago

"Health care insurance should not become a government mandate, Barack Obama said here today, referencing plans posed by John Edwards and Hillary Clinton.

Obama said such mandates for health care coverage is a wrong step. He told a crowd of about 350 people at Thomas Jefferson High School that his plan would lower costs on average by about $2,500 per family, making health care affordable for all without placing demands."

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=...
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:42 PM
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2. Obama can't keep his own positions on health care straight
No surprise he can't keep track of Hillary's position, which has been consistent. Obama has trouble with consistency
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