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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:26 PM
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for those who care to learn about Edwards legal career
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 02:31 PM by LSK
A great starting point is always Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_edwards

He wrote a book about 4 of his biggest trials:
http://www.amazon.com/Four-Trials-John-Edwards/dp/0743272048/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196272876&sr=1-18

Here is an excellent article from 2001 on his career:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0110.green.html

No we he was not an "ambulance chaser":

"By sheer virtue of his skill as a lawyer, Edwards had been able to avoid taking the kinds of cases the public detests. During the campaign, opponents tried unsuccessfully to criticize him for turning away 35 to 40 cases for each one he accepted. But such was the demand for his service that it was impossible to accommodate everyone. Even so, a close friend and fellow attorney says that, before running for Senate, Edwards had a team of doctors and nurses privately screen his record to make sure that no case he'd brought to trial could be considered frivolous: "When they got significantly into , they decided he'd never come close to violating the standard.""

Here is a website devoted to Edwards biggest case involving the little girl who had half of her intestines sucked out by a swimming pool drain:
http://www.monkeytime.org/lakey.html

One more:
http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2004/07/lets-make-war-on-trial-lawyers-who.html

Let me also remind you that George Bush made Tort Reform a priority when he was Governor of Texas and Corporations hate getting sued.

I have been seeing more and more of the GOP smear tactic of calling Edwards an "Ambulance Chaser" and I find it insulting to see such ignorance on DU.




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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:34 PM
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1. My biggest criticism of Edwards is that he not only voted “yes” to the IWR,
...he co-sponsored it, and then admitted to never reading it.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:44 PM
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10. He read the IWR he co-sponsored
He didn't read the National Intelligence Estimate his own Senate committee ordered produced, which contained information he could have known undermining Bush's case for war. Had he read it, he might have withdrawn his support for the war. Wouldn't that have been something? He failed in his responsibility to the American people. His law career has nothing to do with my not supporting him. It's all about the blood.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:43 AM
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19. During one of the first debates he said he didn't read the IWR. ...n/t
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:45 AM
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20. That is shocking
I didn't know that.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:38 AM
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27. during which debate and do you have a link to it ?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:37 PM
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2. Edwards got immensely wealthy from his legal career
Thats fact, but Edwardarians will of course say he did it all for the good of mankind. :eyes:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:39 PM
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4. Wealthy helping people get back at powerful corporations?
Oh, the humanity.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:39 PM
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5. So, it's a bad thing to try to make money?
Do you get paid for the work you do?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:42 PM
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7. at the expense of Corporations, yes
:eyes:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:41 PM
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6. those links posted are specifically for you
You would be well served to read them.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:53 PM
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13. You my friend,
Are another person that has become a joke to me today.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 05:04 AM
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26. Clearly, you don't know anybody who practices personal injury law.
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 05:09 AM by dave123williams
They're not in it for the money. They're in it to stop the guys who think they can get away with it.

They're in it for Justice.

They take cases on contingency, almost always. If they lose, they get nothing. They're the last hope for people who have been grievously injured by fucks that think they're above the law, and try hit them in the one place they can still feel pain and regret - the wallet.

So, tell us all again how he's not a good man. How he's just in it for the money.

You want to know what guys like Edwards are all about? Go rent a movie called "The Rainmaker".

Your post just pushed me towards sealing my primary vote for Edwards. Still not sure about the general election, but thanks.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 10:12 AM
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28. Whether Edwards was in it for the money
Edited on Fri Nov-30-07 10:17 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
isn't for me to decide.

HOWEVER, the generic "they're not in it for the money" is silly. Plenty of personal injury lawyers are in it for the money - all the lowlifes who advertise on tv for starters. Instead of buying a lottery ticket, they work hard in hopes of winning the lottery via a jury. ;)

My neighbor practices personal injury law. Several years ago he decided that he could no longer practice law the way he had been practicing. He couldn't live with his conscience. He now takes fewer cases, and now makes a very good income, but just a fraction of what he made before (or he wouldn't be my neighbor. LOL)

By the way, I have nothing wrong with practicing law and making a lot of money if it's done ethically. But "the law" and "ethics" aren't synonymous.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:03 PM
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30. Your friend still practices personal injury law, right?

And now he's doing it the way it's *supposed* to be done. And for the record:

The Law: noun: a rule or body of rules of conduct inherent in human nature and essential to or binding upon human society.

Ethics: noun: the philosophical study of moral values and rules, motivation based on ideas of right and wrong.

The law says don't kill people. Ethics says *why* you shouldn't.

You're under the mistaken impression that advertising on television is unethical, or that people who do it are. You're wrong on both counts.

Your comparison of somebody who a) got their undergraduate degree b) got their law degree and c) decided to use that degree in the furtherance of justice for the poor and wounded instead of taking the easy route towards going after money and power (certainly available to anyone with a law degree)....your comparison of that kind of guy....to somebody buying a lottery ticket (and the further comparison of your fellow citizens to the people who sell lotter tickets)...well, it just makes me want to puke.

Tell you what; if you're ever grievously injured by a giant soulless corporation, you're going to feel quite a bit differently about the people who do personal injury for a living.

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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:27 PM
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32. You wrote "They're not in it for the money"
Did you note that I was writing in response to that, and not to Edwards. To imply that all personal injury attorneys are not in it for the money is ludicrious. Some most certainly are.

Period.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:38 PM
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3. Do you really think any of the Edwards haters will look at this?
Great work, but it's probably wasted.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:42 PM
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8. post #2 proves you right
Unfortunately.
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cuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:47 PM
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24. No, it doesn't
You got one poster. ONE. POSTER

Please don't use that to smear others
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:44 PM
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9. Thanks! nt
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:45 PM
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11. To some DUers
he should not reap the
rewards of his work. He
should not improve his
lifestyle by buying a bigger
house, etc. etc.
This is very informative,
if only the ones that really
neede to, would read it.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:51 PM
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12. That's fine,
but what's so special about his law career compared to that of any other very successful personal injury attorney?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:53 PM
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14. This one is running for President
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 02:54 PM by LSK
While the others are not?

:shrug:
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:59 PM
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16. lol
fair enough.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:02 PM
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17. and his legal career is being discussed on at least 2 other threads
I think that is why this one was started.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 03:48 PM
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25. Ok, thanks.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 02:58 PM
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15. The whole concept of equating "dollar awards" with justice somehow seems..
bizarre to me. Frankly, I think this very American system of litigation is destructive at almost all times. There are exceptions but generally litigation is a fairly malevolent and paralyzing force in society. Even if it's there to "correct injustices", it doesn't really fix anything, lines the wallets of lawyers mostly, makes people live in fear of each other, and the truly rich are essentially immune to it.

However, I'd gladly cast a vote and some campaign dollars for Edwards if he gets the nom.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:03 PM
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18. you should read this article
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0110.green.html

One of the points is that if the Government is not going to regulate business to protect the consumer, the only other alternative is litigation and lawyers.

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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 10:50 AM
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21. He is one of North And South Carolinas finest sons.
Let the republicans call him any thing they want... but first let them explain putting such a messed up young Bush in the White House, there is no comparison between the two, starting with their IQ
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:07 PM
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22. K&R
Thanks for posting this information. It is important that we make up our own minds about what each of the candidates have done. It is refreshing to see such information presented in a non-inflammatory and positive way. I might think about supporting one of the candidates if their supporters were a little less negative.

A pleasant post about a Dem candidate always deserves a K&R.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-29-07 02:09 PM
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23. Sorry to bash Edwards.
I hope we can still be friends? :shrug:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 12:32 PM
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29. Kick for education !
:kick:
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-30-07 04:08 PM
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31. Great links. Thanks! n/t
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