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The poll that really counts. Reading the analysis is mandatory.

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wiley (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:02 AM
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The poll that really counts. Reading the analysis is mandatory.
Time for this election year reminder:

"One of the ways in which elected representatives are curbed and
controlled is through a never-ending process of phoney elections. They
are called opinion polls. Presented as an expression of the popular
will and thus an expression of democracy itself, they serve the
opposite purpose. They are a method of control.

Opinion polls are artificial news events, easily manipulated, yet are
treated with reverence in Media World, which is not surprising
considering they are a creation of the media and a means of extending
its power."

http://tinyurl.com/3ff3g
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   Been saying that for the longest time.....  DCKit   Nov-28-07 04:11 AM   #1 
   I hope your tagline refers to Bush and Cheney!  wiley   Nov-28-07 04:14 AM   #2 
      Who the hell else could it refer to? C'mon! n/t  DCKit   Nov-28-07 01:50 PM   #9 
   Please K and R me! I've never been greated. Must be my Wes Clark support!  wiley   Nov-28-07 04:16 AM   #3 
   BINGO  Think82   Nov-28-07 04:23 AM   #4 
   Yet people still believe in them as if they are news.  wiley   Nov-28-07 04:27 AM   #5 
   The poll that counts is the one taken on election day, Diebold and the MOE willing. NT  MADem   Nov-28-07 05:21 AM   #6 
   The main media outlets use polling because it is an easy story...  WCGreen   Nov-28-07 05:26 AM   #7 
      I don't want it both ways.  LWolf   Nov-28-07 07:24 AM   #8 
      Your tagline reminded me of how much I liked your tagline!  wiley   Nov-28-07 09:21 PM   #10 
 
DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:11 AM
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1. Been saying that for the longest time.....
Kind of makes you wonder what percentage of the Amurikan peoples actually believe Saddam is responsible for 9/11: 30%? 70%? At 40% it's already frightening, but would they skew the numbers lower or higher and for what reason(s)? Do we even want to know?
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wiley (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:14 AM
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2. I hope your tagline refers to Bush and Cheney!
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 01:50 PM
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9. Who the hell else could it refer to? C'mon! n/t
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wiley (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:16 AM
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3. Please K and R me! I've never been greated. Must be my Wes Clark support!
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Think82 (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:23 AM
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4. BINGO
I took a class on polls in college and by the end of it became convinced how easily they can be manipulated and hyped away from the truth.
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wiley (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 04:27 AM
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5. Yet people still believe in them as if they are news.
Considering most news is hyped facts (maybe without the facts sometimes) they become like cheerleaders for whoever pays for them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 05:21 AM
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6. The poll that counts is the one taken on election day, Diebold and the MOE willing. NT
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 05:26 AM
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7. The main media outlets use polling because it is an easy story...
But we here at DU looked at the polling data leading up to the 2004 election and cried foul when the polling numbers didn't match with the numbers of votes...

You can't really have it both ways...

Either polling is valid or it is not...
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 07:24 AM
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8. I don't want it both ways.
I don't give polls during campaigns any weight, and get tired of having polling numbers posted continuously as if they mean something.
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wiley (1000+ posts)  Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Nov-28-07 09:21 PM
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10. Your tagline reminded me of how much I liked your tagline!
Polls are fake elections. It's that simple. They are also fake news. They are foreplay for the feeble minded.
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