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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:21 PM
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Arianna Huffington takes a page from the Karl Rove playbook?
It's a well-documented fact that the turning point for Karl Rove in the 2004 election was John Kerry's "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it" remarks. This was considered the brass ring on the merry-go-round at Turd Blossom Central...an early Christmas gift from John Kerry to the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign. Remember how many times you saw it in print and heard it on TV and radio?

Currently on the Huffington Post front page:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
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NOVA_Dem Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:27 PM
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1. This is starting to get big...
It's in the blogs, NY Times, and the Washington Post. Even if they find a way to spin it, it shows Bill Clinton "disagreeing" with his wife's vote on the IWR.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:35 PM
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2. Not the same
Opposing the war and supporting a president's authority to go to war are two different things.
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:37 PM
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4. Understood, but...
...President Clinton's comments are being framed in exactly the same way by Huffington Post. Exactly.

If they're not trying to stir the "Kerry flip-flop" pot, I need better proof than the screen shot I posted of their front page.
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radiclib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:37 PM
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3. What was so remarkable about Kerry's supposed "flip-flop"
was the fact that it was so harmful to him, and how unbelievably stupid it revealed much of the electorate to be. Apparently, no one wondered why Kerry would make such an admission, or imagined that he might actually be in the process of explaining his reasons for changing his vote. I don't even remember what they were now, but I knew at the time they were legit...OR WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE BE BRINGING IT UP DURING A STUMP SPEECH?
Big Dog, on the other hand, seems to assume we all have short memories.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 11:45 PM
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5. That is so reagunesque
..we all have very long memories on these past 7 fucking years and counting.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:52 AM
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6. I think this headline is very misleading...
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 03:55 AM by K Gardner
I read Senator Clinton's entire speech yesterday on the IWR, as someone had posted it on another thread. She made every argument that going in before exhausting all options would be a mistake, but in the end "trusted the president" to make the right decisions <paraphrased> and gave him "the authority" if all else failed.

President Clinton says: "I supported the President when he asked the Congress for authority to stand up against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," said Clinton in 2003 while delivering commencement remarks at Tougaloo College in Jackson, Miss."

It seems to me they are both saying exactly the same thing: That while they supported giving Bush the authority (how wise that was is another argument entirely) neither of them support what Bush did with the authority he was given and how prematurely and hastily he used his "power".

I don't see the disparity and feel this is being spun way out of control. Am I alone in feeling this way?

Edited to add: What does Huffington (or any others who are spinning this) gain by distortion?
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 03:56 AM
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7. Thank you for actually taking the time to read the speech.
I have read it over several times and I truly believe that Senator Clinton felt she was doing the right thing, not expecting war to break out.

Others, who often critique her here, haven't taken the time to read the speech.

I also agree with you that it appears that Bill says the same thing.

Huffington appears to have a thing against the Clintons - enough said.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 05:21 AM
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8. Isn't HuffPo known for having an axe to grind with Clinton? {nt}
uguu
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 06:57 AM
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9. I dunno, but it was very disgusting to just hear the exact same b/s
spun the exact same way on "Morning Joe" (sorry, but I'd rather see freakin Imus than that total idiot). What was so bad is they ran the Karl Rove piece about how Congress pushed Bush into Iraq, refused to say virtually anything about it (just kind of shook their heads), then launched in on Clinton. Disgusted with it all.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:00 AM
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10. Arianna Huffington hates Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Personal opinion, based on her constant sneering comments on MSNBC and the editorial slant of her "news" and "humor" websites.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:01 AM
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11. Hating the Clintons gets you lots of play here at DU--no matter what the source.
Edited on Wed Nov-28-07 07:03 AM by Perry Logan
The anti-Hillary folks are going to be trotting over here for the next eight years to repeat anything bad they can Drudge up about her. It won't matter where it comes from, so long as it demoralizes their fellow Democrats.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-28-07 07:14 AM
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12. Huffington hates them both,
and it goes back a long time.
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