Hillary supporters use right wing talk show (Scarborough) to attack Obama

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This is amazing. A video showed up on You Tube this morning saying that "Obama yells at elderly Iowa voter." The video comes from Republican Joe Scarborough's TV show. It's an poor quality video that's edited to show "Obama yelling." It's despicable that someone would intentionally use Scarborough to attack Obama, but that's how some campaigns operate. Look around and you'll find it.

[William769]

1. And Obama uses a Right wing Columnist to attack Hillary.

Amazing!

[rocktivity]

2. Maybe he had to yell because the elderly voter is deaf.

:dunce:
rocknation

[Renew Deal]

6. Best response ever.

:spray:

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3. After two days of Obama and supporters pimping Novakula, it's kinda hard to be upset at this.

[blm]

4. Hillary would NEVER reify RW attacks and smears against another Democrat

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

That would show incredibly BAD character.

[geek tragedy]

5. Character issues and the Clintons go together

like Chinese fundraising scandals and the Clintons.

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7. She said the comment was "inappropriate", and that it shouldn't divert us.

She didn't call on him to apologize, not in that clip anyway.

[blm]

9. She could have just said the TRUTH - that she knew Kerry would NEVER attack

the troops and that a dropped pronoun in a joke is too absurd to extrapolate into an attack on the troops.

For years now millions of Democrats defended Bill for dropping his pants, and Hillary joins Bush's smear and scolds Kerry for dropping a PRONOUN?

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10. We don't know what question she was responding to, or how many times she'd answered it.

This was during an election year, and many Dems tried to put distance betweent themselves and the bullshit spinning of what Kerry said which had been quickly spun into a "Democrats hate the troops" type thing. There were very few Dems defending Kerry's botched joke. It was a shame how it played out, it was unfair to Kerry, but it was what it was and became what it became. Hillary didn't call on him to apologize, and did say it shouldn't divert us. Not at all like the two repukes Larry King put her comments between. I don't find anything wrong with her comments here, and to say that she is using rw talking points in that youtube clip, frankly, is bs. There are three clips there, two repukes who insist Kerry apologize, and one Dem - Hillary, who says we shouldn't get diverted, but doesn't call on Kerry to apologize. Not the same thing, is it?

[Inuca]

12. "There were very few Dems defending Kerry's botched joke"

Yes, the ones with integrity. Unfortunately you are correct, not many.

[blm]

14. She didn't say the TRUTH. When does THAT matter? The cameras were there because

the reporters had HEARD Clinton was going to throw Kerry under the bus. We even heard the plan here at DU before it happened.

Schumer was telling Kerry to apologize and get off the campaign trail. Schumer is Hillary's attack dog. Schumer's office also put up the heyjohn website that attacked Kerry a week earlier and accused Kerry of hoarding money and not supporting Dem candidates, when Kerry had donated and raised the MOST money for Dem candidates and campaigned for more candidates than any other lawmaker in DC.

You think this stuff happens in a vacuum? Poor Hillary was stuck answering a question? Fer chrissakes, she wanted Kerry OFF the campaign trail and taken down because SHE didn't want to face him on a debate stage.

Tonya Harding2008.

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18. omg. Hillary said what she said in that youtube clip because she didn't want to debate Kerry in 08??

Tanya Harding???

Good Lord, are you serious?


And I don't see how you can condemn Hillary for Schumer's actions. At any rate, as unfair as the spin was to Kerry, it did become a liability and HE took HIMSELF off the campaign trail, seeing that political reality. It wasn't what he said, it was the spin from the rw and msm, that became a liability to the Dems' efforts to take back the House and Senate. I'm not happy about it, but that's what happened, and Kerry saw it himself, which is why he faded into the background of his own accord.


The repukes and the msm attacked Kerry unfairly. Hillary, at least in that youtube clip, did not attack Kerry. She did not condemn Kerry. She did not ask Kerry to apologize. She said his words were inappropriate, but that we must move on and remain focused. Hardly throwing him under the bus.

[blm]

20. The spin was being ginned up and encouraged by some Dems - especially Schumer.

And yes, Hillary's camp DOES work with Schumer's camp and just a week earlier they put out that heyjohn website to attack Kerry.

Yes - Tonya Harding 2008.

She could have told the TRUTH - but she didn't. Is the truth more difficult to state than agreeing with a lie?

But this is a pattern of betrayal that is playing out - people either see it or want to pretend none of this happened.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3737938&mesg_id=3737980

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22. blm - is there any kind of link re: Hillary and heyjohn.org that you can share?

Maybe the truth is she thought his remarks were inappropriate. Maybe this was part of a larger answer. We don't know from the clip. Maybe she wasn't aware that it was a botched joke. Maybe this was the day after before that became clear. At any rate, she is clearly trying to move on from the issue and not be diverted by it, where as the rw pukes want to harp on it incessantly. Again, not the same thing as what Hillary is saying in this clip. In all fairness, I think it unjustified to draw the conclusions you have from that clip. She's not repeating the rw by harping on it and demanding an apology. The repukes are doing that. Hillary is saying stay focused, trying to minimize the incident. It's just not the same thing.

[blm]

23. She KNEW he only dropped a pronoun from a joke because the remarks were released

to reporters BEFORE the event as customary. The reporters there even said they were given the remarks and they knew immediately there was no attack on the troops. But those reporters were ignored.

You want to believe that she didn't have this bit of information when she knows full well that remarks are handed to reporters before campaign events? She made her remark the day AFTER the controversy was ginned up and reporters were TOLD Hillary was going to throw Kerry under the bus - we heard the buzz here on DU before it happened.

Hillary was clearly saying the REMARKS were a distraction which implies the remarks were to blame for issues not being discussed.

And when you add it to all the other backstabbing moves of TeamClinton on both Gore and Kerry, it's not hard to see the big picture.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3737938&mesg_id=3737980

Here's heyjohn link - http://heyjohn.org/

BTW - the MORNING this website went up it immediately got full corpmedia attention - now, what grassroots organization putting up one website gets IMMEDIATE coverage from the corpmedia? One set up by people with powerful connections.

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24. I still don't see how what she says in that clip is throwing anyone under the bus.

And I did find the askjohn site, I was wondering if there was any kind of link that might show Hillary had something to do with it, which is pretty much what you're saying, right? How is she tied to that site?

[blm]

26. The site was eventually tracked to a Schumer staffer

and the original content at the site praised Hillary for her donations.

You cannot separate what Schumer and Hillary have been doing the last 3 years. Not without suspending belief.

You think it was a grassroots group that received that heavy an interest from corporate media on its first morning?

BTW - the site being tracked to Schumer staffer was not publicly revealed. I wish it had been, but others chose to not make it an issue.

[Cameron27]

19. You know, I clearly heard Dean say exactly

the same thing as Clinton, and then he changed it in a second statement. Clinton could have made a better reply, but she's not alone so I don't know why you're only holding her accountable.

[Inuca]

11. And you think

that calling it "inapproprate" and implicitely accusing Kerry of the same things that Bush accused him of was "appropriate"? Did you expect her to use the exact same language as the repubs? She is too smart for that.

[speedoo]

8. That was strike three on Sen. Clinton for me.

Traitor.

[durrrty libby]

13. Joe did not do his show today. It was David Shuster, but don't

let facts stop you

Also. this clip( one of much better quality btw) will be on every political MSNBC show today and tonight

Most likely other stations will also pick it up

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15. MSNBC's getting more information rolling in....

That woman admitted to being "not a democrat" and purposely trying to get under Obama's skin.

Most who have viewed the clip are either calling him "tough" on the issues or "easily frustrated".

Morning Joe isn't a right wing show.....both sides take well deserved hits from Joe and Gang. Great interviews too.

[jonnyblitz]

16. after the endless parade of right wing sources Obama supporters

have been using to bolster their case (need I list them?) and you post THIS? You should seriously be EMBARRASSED for yourself. I am beginning to feel sorry for you all.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

17. This is really weak...

The video clip of Obama is not an opinion of Joe Scarbourough (who wasn't even in today). It's a video clip. Since Morning Joe is on first in the MSNBC line-up it was the first to show the clip that is shown once an hour on MSNBC. The exact same clip will probably be on Olbermann, with the same pixels in the same order.

Bonus points for the manic (and Manichean) assertion that anyone posting a clip on YouTube you don't like is a "Hillary supporter."

Did Edwards drop out of the race?

[CyberPieHole]

21. Robert Novak and Dick Morris were used to attack Clinton...

on DU it seems to be par for the course these days.:shrug:

[jefferson_dem]

25. Desperate Hillaryphiles. What a bunch of tools...

n/t