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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:51 AM
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Fact Check: Obama's scummy campaign tactics
http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=4261

11/17/2007 11:08:08 PM

Today, Sen. Barack Obama echoed Republican talking points by repeating a totally false claim by Republican Bob Novak about the tactics of the Clinton campaign.

It might be a good time for Sen. Obama to take a look at the tactics of his own campaign.

The Obama campaign pedaled an opposition research document, titled "Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-Punjab)", attacking Hillary for her ties to the Indian-American community:


Senator Barack Obama disavowed the document his campaign aimed at Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton last week, saying today that it was "stupid and caustic." The headline of one of the documents, which referred to Mrs. Clinton as 'D-Punjab,' touched off a furor among Indian-American groups that called on Mr. Obama to apologize for the remarks.

The Obama campaign made a false attack on Bill Clinton:

More Obama oppo is online today, including a detailed document on Bill Clinton and Ron Burkle (.pdf) and a story, which turned out to be false, about Bill Clinton giving a paid speech on 9/11/06.

The Obama campaign took credit for placing stories attacking Hillary regarding Norman Hsu:

In August, Obama’s team scored a significant hit by helping to place a story in several newspapers revealing that Norman Hsu, a major Clinton donor, had skipped town after having pleaded no contest to a charge of grand theft 15 years earlier and still faced an outstanding warrant... (Hsu had also contributed to Obama.)

The Obama campaign was 'digging for damaging facts' at the Clinton library:

How far is the money being spread? The Obama campaign spent $27 at the Arkansas state archives and $9.30 at the Clinton library, digging for damaging facts on Clinton. Asked what Team Obama found, spokeswoman Jen Psaki conceded, "Not much."

The Obama campaign's communications director compiled a list of opposition research stories on Hillary that he was pitching to reporters:

I couldn’t help but notice some of what he had scrawled on a whiteboard hanging on his wall:

HC Bio > NY Post
HC Travel (AP?)
Tax Returns (Balz?)
Darfur investments (HF)
JE 527

HC is, of course, Hillary Clinton...These were obviously notes about stories the campaign was pushing or anticipating...
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:06 AM
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1. They all fail to be perfect ....
Hillary included ......

NOT a big fan of the candidate partisans ..... not at all ...
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:07 AM
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2. Oh look, more "facts" from "hillaryhub!"
:sarcasm:
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:10 AM
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3. I guess he couldn't find some filth by Dick Morris to post. But you did.
:eyes:

Kick and recommend for Dick Morris
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:12 AM
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4. damn you beat me to it. nt
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:14 AM
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5. hehe...
:toast:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:14 AM
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6. I agree with what Morris said in that article.
I thought it was spot on. Who the author was means nothing to me. It's not about the author, it's about what happened.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:20 AM
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7. Yeah, and Dick Morris also claimed that Obama never introduced a bill in the congress...
I guess he was right that time too?:eyes:
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:27 AM
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8. No, if he said that he was incorrect.
It is possible for one to be incorrect in one instance and correct in another.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:17 AM
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18. "Today Obama echoed Republican talking points" is a daily feature on HillaryHub.
Only Obama can put an end to that.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 04:42 AM
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26. Yes, Obama can continue to echo rw talking points til the cows come home...
if it helps him in his campaign i will be surprised. If it doesn't it will be par for the course.
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CalGator Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 03:42 AM
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9. yawn
More Hillary supporters trying to tell true liberals why they shouldn't vote for one of their own and instead accept the same old shi'ite from the political elite with politically calculated opinions and no desire for change.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:03 AM
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10. Yeah, because Obama has no politically calculated opinions...
keep on telling yourself that.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:35 AM
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20. Yawn...more tripe from an obamahead.
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 04:36 AM
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11. Great Post.
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:50 AM
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12. No scummier than anything Hillary's done.... n/t
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:23 AM
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13. maybe that's true
do you have a similar list of scummy campaign tactics by Hillary?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 06:47 AM
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14. How about a list of the mind-blowingly scummy things that have been said about her here?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:17 AM
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15. Thanks for another piece of spin and propaganda,direct from the Hillary Hublet
We can always count on her campaign to tell us why she is right and Obama is not.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 08:32 AM
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16. Why do mainstream politicians hire high-priced scumbags to handle their campaigns?
When they've failed to produce winning strategies for Gore, Kerry, and obviously Clinton & Obama (or else we wouldn't be hearing about all this shit).

FYI: Biden's campaign manager is his sister.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:43 AM
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19. Does anyone besides Clinton have a site like this? I don't know
of any other candidate who does, and that speaks volumes about her. So much for keeping it real.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 09:00 AM
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17. Yawn.... Another Peter Daou anti-Obama creation from HillaryHub to DU
Another distraction from Hillaryworld surrogates planting an ugly swiftboating whispering campaign
about Obama with Bob Novak.




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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:38 AM
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21. Your headline is misleading,makes it seem as if "Factcheck.org" published this
You should have specified it was Hillaryhub.
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democratsin08 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 10:43 AM
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22. obama is slimy and hate filled
i have seen such hate and venom in one man as i see in obama.
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 12:07 PM
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23. do you have a problem with Obama doing
opposition research?

I don't think that is contradictory to the "politics of hope".
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:02 PM
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24. Kick for Dick Morris and Bob Novak
:kick:
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 01:21 PM
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25. This post is an example of why I will not be voting for Clinton, for anything.
A post of allegations, most of which are denied by the opposing candidate, but which scours that candidate nonetheless, as if the allegations are true? No facts in the post to back up the allegations?

I expect to see this sort of thing from a Rovian, but I am surprised to see it here.

Until the last debate, I was undecided. After experiencing the Clinton booers at the debate, though, and considering all the Clinton supporter posts I've seen that are soooo negative and obviously untrue, I have decided who I will not vote for...in the primary AND in the general election: Clinton.

Who will I vote for? After the last debate, I decided I like Obama and Biden the best.
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