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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:01 PM
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Poll question: So waht do you think about Novak's claim that the Clinton campaign is spreading
rumors that Obama has a skeleton in the closet to horrible to describe?

Sorry, polls are turned off at Level 3.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:06 PM
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1. How did Novak hear a rumor before WE did?
Unless he made it up, of course. Or got it direct from his good pals.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:15 PM
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22. Novak's rumors have found to be true in the past
but there is always that proverbial first time.
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Superman Returns Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:07 PM
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2. disgusting
Smoking coke off a dead hooker is over the top! Even for the Clintons! I guess Obama has learned the lesson of how politics really works with the Clintons.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:10 PM
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3. I think the Douchebag of Liberty is stirring the pot again.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:12 PM
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4. I think that while Clinton doesn't understand the Politics of Hope,
she has once again proved that she is an expert in the Old Politics.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:14 PM
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5. Really? How does a right wing hit piece
from Robert Novak prove that?
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:20 PM
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10. It's of a piece with other tactics we've seen.
Planting qustions in a crowd

Ensuring the audience at the Nevada dabate was top heavy with loud Clinton supporters.

Accusing Obama of leaving 15 million people behind when it comes to health insurance

Accusing Obama of planning to raise $1 trillion in taxes fromm the middle class and seniors.

She's too cute by half.

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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:24 PM
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15. Another Person That Doesn't React Well To Defeat
Perhaps if some of these people had played team sports as youngsters they would have learned how to win and lose graciously...
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:17 PM
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8. Do You Have Any Evidence Or Do You Like To Slime People For The Sheer Fuck Of It?
DSB
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:15 PM
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6. Why would Hillary want to put out such tripe? She is ahead anyway,
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:21 PM
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11. I Like The Second Option
Charge somebody with something that's logically impossible to refute...
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:17 PM
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23. The same illogical reason Nixon organized Watergate
inspite of being ahead double digits in polls.
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CnAnPB Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:16 PM
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7. Which *Democratic* Candidate stands to gain from all of this?
Just asking.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:19 PM
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9. I think a better question would be
" Do the republicans gain by sowing discord among the frontrunners in the Democratic party?"
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CnAnPB Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:21 PM
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12. No sorry - That's my question n/t
:)
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:23 PM
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14. Then come out and say what you think instead
of posing coy questions.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:21 PM
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13. Other: I have no clue
Novak does what he does.

After that it was up to Obama to chose whether to use it.

As to the truth of it, I don't know and neither does anyone but the parties involved at this point. I sure as hell don't take Novak's word for it.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:29 PM
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16. Has Novak ever lied? I thought his history was that he was the perfect
means of feeding information out into the press. IMO, after weeks of floating a rumor with no takers, someone in the Clinton camp decided it was time to push the story to the next level. Maybe whoever fed the story to Novak relied on him not to reveal his sources.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:26 PM
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27. Your imagination is working overtime
I'm reading a lot of hysterical accusations based on no facts, no evidence, nothing. Unless Novak is Walter Cronkite all of a sudden.

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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:38 PM
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17. Who the hell knows?
We have something scandalizing Novak said about a scandal that was not going to be a scandal because the scandal holders weren't about to be scandalizing the American public with this scandal :crazy:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:43 PM
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18. C'mon Carville, Begala! Fezz up!
Since the Clinton Camp is following Karl Rove's 2000 Primary Manual, there is no limit as to how low they will stoop to win the nomination for Hillary.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:54 PM
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19. Mark, Mark Penn? Dick Norris?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:12 PM
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21. Not As Low As People Who Accuse Other People Without A Scintilla Of Evidence, Evidently
DSB
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:17 PM
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20. Everybody. Listen. Up.
Robert Novak is the Enemy. He does not want a Democrat in the White HOuse. He hates us. All of us. He wants to continue the Republican Regime. He is also a disgusting old man who may just be feeling his power and influence wane as he ages and newer hands arrive to take over.

That is what this is all about. Everybody calm down and get back to working for your Dem candidate. Forget about this thing. It is a DISTRACTION and from the looks of things, it appears to be working here at DU... :banghead:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:24 PM
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24. Excellent post n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:13 PM
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26. Thank you so much! I am beginning to feel that I am a voice in the wilderness here at DU!
These threads go on and on. Nobody has any evidence of anything and yet rumors just fly all over the place.

All I know is that since I have been a sentient human being with a political sensibility, I have known that Robert Novak is not my political ally. He works for the Other Side.

What part of this do people not understand? What is the reason for this conspiracy cook-up?

Sorry. I guess I'm just tired...
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:13 PM
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25. Third choice: it's probably true.
n/t
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