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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:26 PM
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Obama to Clinton: Don't 'Swift Boat' me
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/17/obama-t... /

Obama to Clinton: Don't 'Swift Boat' me

Obama reacted Saturday to reports that a smear from the Clinton campaign may be coming.

(CNN)Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama called on his rival for the nomination. Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-New York, to put to rest a report that agents of her campaign are spreading word of an alleged scandal involving Obama.

"She of all people, having complained so often about 'the politics of personal destruction,' should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics," Obama said in a statement released by his campaign on Saturday.

Obama's comments stem from an item published Saturday in the 'New York Post' by Robert Novak. Novak claimed that surrogates for Clinton have mounted a word of mouth campaign among Democratic circles regarding scandalous information the Clinton campaign has about Obama. Novak said that experienced veterans of Democratic politics believe the Clinton campaign is withholding the release of the information because it wants to avoid a re-play of the 2004 nomination fight, when attacks on each other by Richard Gephardt, and Howard Dean were credited with assisting the rise and eventual nomination of another candidate, Massachusetts Senator John Kerry.

" The cause of change in this country will not be deterred or sidetracked by the old 'Swift Boat' politics," the Illinois senator went on to say in the statement. "But in the interest of our party, and her own reputation, Senator Clinton should either make public any and all information referred to in the item, or concede the truth: that there is none."

"We have no idea what Mr. Novak's item is about and reject it totally," Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer told CNN Saturday. "Instead of pointing fingers at us,Senator Obama should get back to the issues and focus on what this election is really about."

"Once again Senator Obama is echoing Republican talking points, this time from Bob Novak. This is how Republicans work," Singer went on to say. "A Republican leaning journalist runs a blind item designed to set Democrats against one another. Experienced Democrats see this for what it is. Others get distracted and thrown off their games. Voters should be concerned about the readiness of any Democrat inexperienced enough to fall for this. There is a campaign in this race that has engaged in the very practice that Senator Obama is decrying, and it's his."
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:29 PM
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1. he didn't say DON'T SWIFT BOAT ME he said put up or shut up
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:37 PM
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9. sensationalist leading subject line.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:30 PM
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13. " change in this country will not be deterred or sidetracked by the old 'Swift Boat' politics".
That's what he said; how is the title sensationalistic? Did you even bother to read this?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:44 PM
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21. Obama looks, pardon me for saying it, stupid and naive over this.
He got played by Bob Novak.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:30 PM
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2. Good for him. Enough with the Mark Penn/Rove dirty tactics.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:30 PM
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3. Empty suit to empty pantsuit: Don't pants me.
:boring:
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:45 PM
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29. LOL...
k...that was funny. :rofl:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:31 PM
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4. Obama is being idiotic
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 01:31 PM by ruggerson
to give credence to a story from Robert Novak is insane.
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MiaCulpa Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:40 PM
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11. What BS
I'm by no means in the Clinton camp at this point (I'm not in the
anybody camp at this point) but this is just ludicrous. Someone who
is known to use their column specifically to fuck over Democrats
writes an unsourced item about unnamed Clinton operatives doing some
unspecified thing to damage Obama's campaign because he's the
frontrunner and she's askeered of him and the Clinton campaign has to
prove a negative?

This looks like a two-fer for the Obama campaign going into
the first primaries - Hillary gets bad publicity and Obama helps
build his image as the anti-Hillary.

Using right-wing talking points, for the second time in two weeks
to accomplish that is over the line into useful idiot territory.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 02:15 PM
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12. For all we know though
Obama might have inside info that her campaign is doing this. Novak does have a lot of connections which is amazing to me but there it is. Presidential politics is a blood sport these days which is a shame.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 04:06 PM
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20. For all we do know..
This BS has been logged in by some journalist on the beltway. It's been around for a month or so and apparently there must be some truth to it because Bambi is making a pre-emptive strike against Hillary (how CONVENIENT!).

Michelle hasn't been too visible lately either, except when she's talking BS to a reporter about racism. I find her to be a very inwardly strange individual. She's carrying around a lot of racist baggage just simmering under the boiling point ready to spill over. If he doesn't lose the nomination all by himself...she is sure to sabotage whats left of his flagging campaign.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:33 PM
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5. Damn this is like watching live tennis
:D

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:35 PM
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7. lol
n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:34 PM
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6. she already put out a response
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 PM
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8. Clinton campaign's response to Obamas statement on Novak hit piece...
Clinton campaign's response to Obamas statement on Novak hit piece...
Posted by rodeodance on Sat Nov-17-07 12:54 PM

Forum Name General Discussion: Politics
Topic subject Clinton campaign's response to Obamas statement on Novak hit piece...
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
3730742, Clinton campaign's response to Obamas statement on Novak hit piece...
Posted by SaveElmer on Sat Nov-17-07 12:49 PM


"Once again Senator Obama is echoing Republican talking points, this time from Bob Novak. This is how Republicans work. A Republican leaning journalist runs a blind item designed to set Democrats against one another. Experienced Democrats see this for what it is. Others get distracted and thrown off their games. Voters should be concerned about the readiness of any Democrat inexperienced enough to fall for this. There is only one campaign in this race that has actually engaged in the very practice that Senator Obama is decrying, and it's his. We have no idea what Mr. Novak's item is about and reject it totally. Instead of pointing fingers at us, Senator Obama should get back to the issues and focus on what this election is really about."



Democrats again fall for a rw disinformation campaign...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:43 PM
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16. Obama campaign response to Clinton campaign response
"The Clinton campaign has admitted that they do not possess the scandalous information in question and we take them
at their word," said David Plouffe, Obama's campaign manager in a statement on Saturday. "But what we dont accept is
their assertion that this is somehow falling for Republican tricks. This is exactly the kind of smear politics, Democrats
need to fight back on, regardless of the source or the party. Democrats should know that when Barack Obama is their
nominee, he will not allow the Swift boat politics of fear and diversion to prevail in this campaign."

I like that "take no shit" attitude by Obama! If the Clinton campaign was trying to start a swiftboating whisper campaign,
they failed miserably.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:45 PM
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22. Novak 1, Obama 0
What idiots the Obamas have become...
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:13 PM
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33. Obama smackdown, Hillaryworld sulking
What swiftboating sleezeballs the Clintons have become. Taking a page out of the Republican playbook
didn't work this time.

Checkmate. The Queen is dead.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 01:39 PM
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10. I don't trust Novak! As soon as I saw that name as the writer, I am
suspicious of the reason behind the article! Bob has been a Pub writer forever, and it wouldn't surprise me if what Singer said was the real truth! Say something by saying nothing just to cause dissent inside the Dems!
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:57 PM
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19. Clinton accepts money from Murdoch, feeds stories to Drudge; why not plant a rumor with Novak?
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 04:08 PM by ClarkUSA
Hillary will do anything with anybody if it helped her be the Democratic nominee. And Chris Lehane, Mark Penn, and
Harold Wolfson know damn well that Novak will spread maliciious stories (see Valerie Plame). F*ck them for swiftboating
a good Democrat!!
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asha Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:02 PM
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14. no reason
Hillary has no reason to repond to Obama's scandals. She is 20 points ahead.Even if she looses Iowa it doesnot matter.IT is just a cockass,only 184000.people show up after candidates spend their lives there.Iowans should all come to vote.She kicked their ass,in the debtes ., could be the 12% erdid this,he is a slimy lawyer.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:34 PM
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15. Welcome to DU
Hint: Posting while sober is a plus.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:54 PM
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18. Ha!
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 03:55 PM by babylonsister
:rofl: Reminds me of posts I've seen elsewhere... :freak:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:49 PM
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17. "Once again Senator Obama is echoing Republican talking points"??? F*ck the Clinton campaign!!
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 03:50 PM by ClarkUSA
Nice. They're swiftboating Obama while denying they're swiftboating him, unbelievable sh*ts that they are..
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:47 PM
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23. Sour grapes after being played by Novak.
Face it, Novak is twice the politician Obama is.
Obama got his lunch money stolen - again.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:02 PM
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24. It's not surprising that you value "politicians" given who you pledge lock-step loyalty to.
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 06:02 PM by jefferson_dem
Say anything / do anything....if it can be used to manufacture some political advantage, eh.

Obama called Hillary and her henchmen out for their sleaziness and she knuckled under. Still...people don't believe her. When her credibilty ranks no higher than does Robert Fuckin' Novakula's, you know she's in trouble.

Many here are sick of the Chimpy-Clinton way of doing business. That...you're going to have to deal with.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:06 PM
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25. "Obama called Hillary and her henchmen out for their sleaziness and she knuckled under."
That might be the dumbest thing ever typed on DU. I can't be certain though, for I have not read all your posts. :rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:12 PM
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26. How long did it take for Hillary's camp to get on record with their claim of "we know nothing"...
after Obama demanded it? Still, her claim rings of a sorry bit of "plausible deniablility."

My guess is that there's more to come on this story...and it won't reflect well on "your girl."
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:16 PM
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27. You want the "Clinton camp" to jump every time Obama whines about something?
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 06:17 PM by MethuenProgressive
You're new to this, right? They were probably to busy laughing at him.
:rofl:
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:51 PM
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30. You seem to be having trouble keeping up.
The point is that they did respond swiftly with their denials.

Silly.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:22 PM
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28. She likes 'em
when they're not directed towards her.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 06:55 PM
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31. Poor little Obama.
:rofl:
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:02 PM
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32. Looks like clinton got caught in dirty politiking again
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:55 PM
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34. Only a fool would believe Novak.
Obama's lack of experience is glaring.
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