There's something WRONG with BUYING votes.

[fooj]

It didn't take long, did it? I was perusing DU this am and saw how Edwards was at the TOP of the donor list. I picked up the phone and called a DU buddy and suggested that it wouldn't take long for the Hillarybots to BUY Edwards into the hole and PURCHASE her own lead. BWAHAHAHAHA! I projected that it wouldn't take longer than a few hours. How sad is that?

I suppose we aren't divided enough. Perhaps we can come up with a less divisive way in the future to fundraise here at DU. It's all about the money, isn't it? Power to the people. That is, if you happen to be fortunate enough to be the "people" with the cash.

I'm glad I donated during the last cycle so I don't feel compelled to participate in this nonsense. I suppose I could write out a big, fat check and buy Edwards his lead back but that's not democratic, is it? Hmmmm...

An election is not an auction. To promote it as such is irresponsible, even if it's being done as a promotional to fundraise.

[crispini]

1. It's a game.

And anyhoo, everyone knows that Clinton got the lead through the powerup.

[msongs]

2. edwardsBOTS buy votes = good, HillaryBOTS buy votes = bad. ok

its just a silly little DU game.

thank gosh Oprah doesn't run any kind of fund raising schemes eh?

Msongs

[fooj]

10. Re-read my OP. That's NOT what I said.

It's really not a "silly little game" if members such as yourself are compelled to reply inferring that I'm a "EdwardsBOT" when that couldn't be further from the truth. Truthfully, it didn't matter WHO the 'frontrunner" was this am. It's the point as well as the predictability.

Good luck finding a thread that I posted in as an "Edwardsbot"...you won't. Tell me again how this isn't DEVISIVE. Just look how you came after me. It's that simple.

[ThomCat]

3. The whole idea of money = votes is disturbing.

:(

[rucky]

Unless the money goes to DU

so we can play more cool games like this.

[greyl]

8. Your equation is missing some factors: Power Ups! nt

[gratuitous]

4. Yeah, it's awful and reprehensible

Now, what will someone offer me for MY vote? I presume selling votes is still okay. :evilgrin:

[wyldwolf]

5. uh.. that's so funny.

I was perusing DU this am and saw how Edwardsbots had Edwards at the TOP of the donor list. I picked up the phone and called a DU buddy and suggested that it wouldn't take long for Hillary to catch up and Edwardsbots to whine about it. BWAHAHAHAHA! I projected that it wouldn't take longer than a few hours. How sad is that?

[fooj]

13. Right on cue. That's what's sad.

BTW- show me where I'm an Edwardsbot. I defy you to find one fucking thread...

Like I said, IMO, this is divisive. Period. Take it or leave it. I don't really care how you feel about my opinions. It's that simple.

[wyldwolf]

17. Right on cue. That's what's sad.

BTW- show me where I'm an Hillarybot. I defy you to find one fucking thread... :rofl:

No, see, your opinion is if someone thinks differently than you, they must be a "bot."

[fooj]

32. Priceless.

It's not about thinking differently. It's about THINKING on one's own. Use your own words and quit plagiarizing mine.

[wyldwolf]

40. yes, so if one supports Clinton, they must not be "thinkin on one's own."

:rofl:

[mike_c]

6. dude, I did it and I'm ANYTHING but a "Hillarybot," LOL....

It was a pure Rovian dirty trick, played in one stroke with a powerup. Now get out there and start tearing down Sen. Clinton's false lead!

[greyl]

7. This isn't an election.

One of the "fun" things about it is that money can't guarantee the lead.

[rinsd]

9. I love the outrage about something you seem so utterly clueless about.

[fooj]

11. Just trying to protect what little credibility we have left...

Good luck with that.

[Bitwit1234]

12. I guess the Obama suck ups haven't spent enough yet

They are probably bashing HIllary so much they can't do anything else. I am disgusted with this type of fund raising and for this time am not going to donate 5 cents.

[Renew Deal]

15. You sound like those you describe.

Too busy bashing Obama to donate.

[Renew Deal]

14. I'm amused by it all.

It all depends on who gets which powerups. That time it was a Hillary lover. Anyone that looks around DU knows that DU doesn't support her.

[mike_c]

19. no no no!

Please don't call me that! :rofl:

[Renew Deal]

35. lol

:toast:

[MADem]

16. It's an amusing device with no validity in the real world. Good GRIEF.

If you're lucky enough to get a "Power Up" you can fuck with the standings in whatever way you want. It is a game, with a massive CHANCE element in it.

What you're doing is confusing an amusing little partisan fundraising game, designed to earn money for a website frequented by Democrats and Other Progressives, with no basis in REALITY, with an election.

This isn't an election, here, any more than it's an election when someone posts a DU poll asking who's the favorite.

You need to lighten up.

I think it's hysterical, amusing as hell, especially watching the candidates fly all over the page from one hour to the next--and the graphics are funny as well.

[fooj]

20. Actually, I'm not confused at all.

I KNOW EXACTLY what is happening and principles aside, it's a brilliant way to make a few bucks. I'm not denying that. The fact of the matter is...our country is in peril and I don't think a divisive fundraising ploy helps keep our focus on what REALLY matters. I've stayed away from here as of late because of all of the bitter infighting and "pitbull propaganda" that consumes this message board. I just don't see how this helps to unite us. It's just an opinion. Take from it what you will.

[greyl]

22. I think it's as divisive as snapping each other with wet towels.

As in "not" divisive.

[fooj]

25. I guess that's why we call it a Democracy.

You are ABSOLUTELY entitled to your opinion. Ours differ. I can live with that. Hope you can, too!

[greyl]

27. Not exactly.

However, of course we're entitled to our opinion. We submit our opinions to the pool of ideas accompanied by decent arguments and reasons, and the best ideas don't sink.

[fooj]

31. Ouch. I bet that was designed to leave a little stinger.

You get to make subtle insults. It's your right. I'm not offended. Like I said, I'm entitled to my opinion as you are entitled to yours. Opinions, that is. Not attacks. Enough said.

[greyl]

37. No, the version I didn't post was, though.

Had to do with the one person who gets their feelings hurt during a meaningless towel fight. ;)

[MADem]

33. DU is never going to hold hands and sing Kumbaya during primary season. Fuggedaboutit.

Every election year, the same shit. You don't need this funny little race to get a 'divisive' element involved--just read the threads.

You said you stayed away because of the bitter infighting and pitbull propaganda--this goofy little construct actually MITIGATES all that stuff, because it's a game of CHANCE. If you get lucky, you get to push your player ahead, and/or knock back the 'enemy.'

It's FOOLISHNESS. Silliness. That's all it is. It's entirely separate from the serious issues that face the US, but if we are going to play the Doom and Gloom card all day, every day, then this place really won't BE any fun.

AT all!!!!

Ya know, take this or leave it, but that IGNORE THREAD feature might help you with some of that "Infighting" angst.

[wyldwolf]

18. did anyone have a problem with the DU fundraising tool UNTIL Hillary took the lead?

[fooj]

21. I'm not sure.

I'm busy collecting a paycheck elsewhere. Don't have the time or the inclination to monitor this sort of thing.

[mohc]

24. Everything must be politicized

Edwards only had the lead because a power-up was used against Kucinich. This is just a silly game, anyone taking this as a strike against voting rights or some nonsense needs to lighten up. And before the OPer attacks, I happen to be an Edwards supporter, or am I an EdwardsBot I forget...

[fooj]

26. I think you're safe.

I'm really not in the market to attack ANYONE. I just see this as divisive. It's as simple as that.

Thanks for inferring that I would post an attack towards you. See what I mean?

[mohc]

29. Compared to the relentless

attacks against such and such a candidate in the forums, a simple game to encourage donations seems pretty tame to me. Does the candidate that wins the fun run get anything? Do their supporters? At this point in primary season, there are few things people here are more passionate about that the candidate they support. Using this as a means to encourage donations seems like a pretty good idea. If this fun run somehow means something more to you, such that one candidate or another "winning" it has some effect on you, well then all I can say is I am sorry you feel that way.

[TomInTib]

23. I fully agree.

Those were my thoughts when I first read about this.

"Huh?"

It seems to run counter to just about everything DU is about.

[fooj]

28. My feelings, exactly.

Yet another issue we are in full agreement on. Will it ever end? :loveya:

[TomInTib]

30. Never.

And we can even stir in a little MLB when appropriate.

[Bonobo]

39. Thanks for saying that, Tom. I felt nauseated when I saw it because it is so

reminiscent of what is wrong with our system. The whole idea of building a "warchest" and the media discussing who has brought in the most money without ANY SENSE AT ALL of how fucked up that is.

I know this money goes to DU, but honestly it feels very friggin' wrong to mix up money and voting. Period. Go and and tell me I have no sense of humor. I got a helluva sense of humor. But not this and not on DU when money in voting is so fucking pervasive.

Agreed and thanks for letting me know it wasn't just me.

[troubleinwinter]

41. I agree also. BUYING a candidate's position with most MONEY disturbs me.

[flvegan]

34. Looks like a pretty successful fundraiser to me.

As intended.

[Raejeanowl]

36. Skinner Is the Winner n/t

[Blue-Jay]

38. I don't think you quite "get" the joke.

I also don't think that you're a stranger to the sentence in my subject line. Call it a hunch.

[Generator]

42. I agree

It bothers me too-glad I'm not the only one. But clearly we are in the minority. It's not just putting money FOR your candidate but against the others. It's of course intended to rile-thus getting the bucks. I guess that's successful.