Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Nobody sued Terry McAuliffe when he said Michigan's delegates would not get near Boston.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:40 PM
Original message
Nobody sued Terry McAuliffe when he said Michigan's delegates would not get near Boston.
It was not even public knowledge. Nobody got really upset, nobody threatened to sue McAuliffe who was chairman then. It was politics as usual.

Here's what Terry McAuliffe said to Carl Levin in 2004, as reported in his book.

Expletives were flying. The head of the Democratic National Committee was having it out with Sen. Carl Levin because Michigan wanted to crash the rarefied club of early presidential primary states.

Move your primary too early, Terry McAuliffe warned, and Michigan will lose half its delegates to the 2004 Democratic convention.

"The closest they'll get to Boston will be watching it on television," McAuliffe vowed. "I will not let you break this entire nominating process for one state. The rules are the rules."


Florida Democrats plan the early primary with the Republicans and then sue Howard Dean


The court has accepted the lawsuit, Nelson v Dean, which most of us figured it would. Instead of presenting the real issue, Bill Nelson and Alcee Hastings made it about the African American vote here....which of course is not what it was about at all.

There are now 4 lawsuits going against the DNC.

I am sorry but this is not making sense. Who is behind all these lawsuits? It costs money to file all these lawsuits? Who is funding them?

Why are all of the suits being filed now against the party and not against the party under its former chairman?

The Florida party worked with the GOP since early 2006 to get the early primary date. The party spokesperson said so. Now they are being allowed to sue the DNC at a crucial time for our party.

I have been posting about this issue since it began. I am about the only one. Florida bloggers were taken on board with the state party, and they are sticking with them. There is no one presenting both sides.

Collection of posts about how the primary deal was done by both parties here.

I am thinking that our party here must not need us very much. Maybe that's a good thing.

I want to know who is funding all the lawsuits, including Nelson v Dean, the one by Victor Dimaio in Tampa, the one being filed by Senate Leader Steve Geller against the first four states and maybe Dean, and the one by Ralph Nader, who never minds taking right wing money. There is also an ongoing one by a gay activist that is not connected with Florida.

How do we find out who is providing financial backing for all these lawsuits?

I was willing to work with the party here this year until the vote on the early primary, when they sent out an email the next day saying to contact Dean and stop him from stealing our votes.

Pardon me if I am less than eager now. I am angry that the Tampa guy will continue his lawsuit, though it has already been dismissed once. I am angry that the courts took Nelson v Dean, as it really should have been dismissed.

I guess they really don't need us.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 03:59 PM
Response to Original message
1. I always believed one person speaking out could make a difference.
I no longer believe that.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. I close my eyes.
Only for a moment, then the moment's gone.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. I no longer try to figure out what you mean.
I do know I have not been able to make a difference.

I do know that a powerhouse of money is behind all these lawsuits.

I do know that nothing I have written made a difference. Florida has gotten away with lies.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:03 PM
Response to Original message
2. Good Terry. The convention is only for show anyway.
It reflects the lousy state of our democratic process. Sometimes , its best to stay home. As for me, I'd not even turn on the TV set.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:06 PM
Response to Original message
3. Who wants early primaries...?
I would guess the machine of the "front-runner" candidate, who hopes to wrap up an insurmountable lead before her popularity starts to wane and other challengers can grab a foothold.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 07:00 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. It's a good question to be asking.
Who stands to benefit the most.

:hi:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:15 PM
Response to Original message
4. That's Because This Whole Scenario Is Just A Faux In Sheep's Clothing Situation
And given the DLC's recent campaign against Howard Dean and that Nelson is a member of the DLC, I'm wondering if this is a set-up. a stalking horse to get Dean out. The DLC is losing its grip on the states they previously neglected and showing themselves to be only concerned with the interests of the party elite and corporations who fill their till. Didn't we just need Ford cautioning us to stop talking about the past? I bet they don't want us to bring up the past. They supported * and the wrecking ball he brought to this country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:41 PM
Response to Original message
5. Maybe the reason they didn't sue was because they conceded. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 04:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. Levin and McAuliffe made a deal and Terry formed the commission
whose rules Florida and Michigan are breaking. :shrug:

Carl Levin and Terry McAuliffe made a deal about primaries in 2004.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1483
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 08:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC