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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:35 AM
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Kucinich Supporters: Democrats No Strangers to UFOs
Kucinich supporters, I found this story that may help. I know you must be feeling frustrated by the razing around here about that UFO thing. This shows that he is not alone in this area.



When Dennis Kucinich was confronted last night with his alleged history as a flying saucer enthusiast -- wait, that sounds too harsh, so let's just say his history of hearing directions beamed into his brain from a UFO hovering silently over Shirley MacLaine's house (yes, that's what MacLaine says in her new book) -- he ritually sought political cover from Jimmy Carter. Carter famously saw a UFO in 1969 and, when he became president, asked his aides to open up any and all files on possible extraterrestrial visitors.

But Kucinich might have added another name to the discussion: Bill Clinton. His UFO enthusiasm is less well known.

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What never got much attention was Bill Clinton's UFO interest. After Clinton won the 1992 election, he told Webster Hubbell, his close friend and a newly appointed associate Attorney General, to find out two things when he went to work at the Justice Department: 'One, who killed JFK? And two, Are there UFOs?' "

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Presidents and presidential candidates are like everyone else: They know they live in a universe with billions of galaxies, and that there are funny lights in the sky, and it is perfectly reasonable to wonder if someone from way out yonder is checking us out.

Russert mentioned that 14 percent of Americans have reported seeing a UFO. What he didn't say is that fully 34 percent, according to a recent AP-Ipsos poll, "believe in UFOs," whatever that means. Single men are most likely to see a UFO.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/10/31/ufos.html
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:38 AM
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1. As a mater of fact I was just reading Pravda and there are several...
stories about info. being covered up by early Astronauts to the moon about life on the moon.

http://english.pravda.ru/topic/moon-504/

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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:42 AM
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2. I've heard stories about Astronauts and UFOs here and there.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:45 AM
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3. UFO's are common, I've seen them.
However, I realize they are mundane things in a space without visual references to distance, size, and speed.

Thinking they are extra-terrestrial spacecraft is romantic and appealing, but not a logical conclusion.

If some says they saw a UFO, big deal. If someone thinks they saw aliens, they need a reality check or a better science education.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:32 AM
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8. Someone said that if you haven't seen an UFO (strict definition here),
you are either very young or very unobservant. If someone says they interacted with extraterrestrial entities, ask them for their quantifiable evidence and get out Occam's Razor. As Carl Sagon (RIP) pointed out, extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:00 AM
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10. Absolutely.
Carl Sagon is one of my heros, but he took a lot of shit from the "aliens abducted me & probed by anus" crowd.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:46 AM
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4. As you stated in your post...
"They know they live in a universe with billions of galaxies, and that there are funny lights in the sky, and it is perfectly reasonable to wonder if someone from way out yonder is checking us out."

I certainly know that when I was a kid we used to do the sleep out under the stars thing and wonder what was really out there! Certainly not inconceivable to me that there is life in that vast area beyond our world.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:57 AM
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5. Joel Achenbach doesn't address the "I didn't" portion of Kucinich's answer.
Kucinich seems to be saying that he saw a UFO but didn't get directions from it.

Tim Russert: The godmother of your daughter, Shirley MacLaine, writes in her new book that you sighted a UFO over her home in Washington state, that you found the encounter extremely moving, that it was a "triangular craft, silent and hovering," that you "felt a connection to your heart and heard directions in your mind." Now, did you see a UFO?

Kucinich: I did. And the rest of the account -- I didn't -- it was an unidentified flying object, OK? It's, like, it's unidentified. I saw something.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 07:58 AM
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6. I think many laugh as they are either afraid or don't want to be
concidered crazy. I feel that it seems alittle arrogant to believe we are alone in this endless universe.
whether others come here with flying whatevers, I don't know and have not really formed an opinion.
But, I do think it unfair for people, especially the so called open minded DU, to laugh and make fun of DK because he saw something.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:18 AM
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7. A lot of you aren't old enough to remember BUT
go back to the 1950's and 60's. Check out UFO's over the white house. There were reports that Ike stated he has seen them. You can find the reports floating around on the TV shows, like History, Discovery etc. But you probably won't find them in any other archives. It is worth a try to google.
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Bohemianwriter Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:58 AM
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9. UFO's and shit
I can dig it: After a mushroom trip. But if you're serious about running for presidency, that's not waht you put on your CV: I've seen UFOs..

Seriously. I can say I've had experiences with ghosts, but I wouldn't say squat about it during my campaign if I shoud run for office somewhere. It's the dumbest thing he could ever say on National Boadcast or wherever the hell he said it. But then again, I'm not running for office anywhere. I don't plan to either.

Go down to the evangelicals, I'd say "I've seen the Rapture", and the wee religious freaks would flock arouhnd you like they were apostles themselves.
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