Bold prediction for 2008: Romney/Huckabee beat Hillary/her VP

[wiseguy182]

Romney and Huckabee is shaping up to be the Republican ticket. Romney is leading in all 3 of the first 3 states to hold primaries/caucuses: Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina. And Huckabee is surging in Iowa and elsewhere. And alot of times its better to have momentum then the lead (look at Kerry in 04, for example.) Their both governors, which tend to get elected. Romeny could carry Massachussets, the state he governed, which normally would go for Dem. Huckabee would probaby carry Arkansas, which might have went for Hillary since she is from there. The other candidates are not faring as well. Thompson started off slow and then tapered off, Tancredo and Hunter are virtual non-entinties, Ron Paul is too far to the left to his party, and Guiliani is losing momentum.

Hillary will do what Kerry and Gore did, come close, but end up on the short end of the stick.

I know I might be repetitive about Bill Richardson, but he should be able to flip Flordia, Colorado, Arizona and New Mexico. Do well with the Hispanic vote, and he has the most experience, he's the best candidate on energy and environmental matters, and foreign policy. And he's a governor. I can't stress it enough.

[dsc]

1. I will give a thousand dollars to the charity of your choice

if the Democrat doesn't carry Massachusetts.

[...of J.Temperance]

5. The last time that a Democrat

Didn't win Massachucetts in a Presidential Election was a LONG time ago....the Democratic nominee will win Massachucetts, yes, Massachucetts poses no problem to whoever our nominee might be.

[...of J.Temperance]

2. You're posting this defeatist stuff for WHAT reason exactly?

We're attempting to be positive about our chances.

And no I don't think Mitt Romney and that looney Huckabee "abortion is like the Holocaust" would be able to win.

Senator Clinton will get the nomination, and her Veep candidate will either be Bill Richardson or Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana.

Our ticket will be either:

Clinton/Richardson or Clinton/Bayh....and either ticket will win....you just watch and see if they don't.

[wiseguy182]

6. not defeatist

not defeatist I would say. I just fear will lose again.

[...of J.Temperance]

10. Huh?

You say it's not defeatist, you then say "I just fear will lose again."

That's called having a defeatist attitude.

[wiseguy182]

14. hillary

when 50% of the country say the will not vote for Hillary, do you feel comfortable she can with then?

[...of J.Temperance]

16. Yeah I do

Because even those who say that now, when it comes down to it....will hold their noses and vote for Senator Clinton.

Between now and the day before the election, the GOP are going to get increasingly fanatical and crazy sounding, especially about Iran....so ya know.

[MethuenProgressive]

41. The only way the GOP beats Clinton is with help from Democrats.

That's just plain old math.

[bluerum]

3. Romney and God wouldn't carry MA.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Your Post Contradicts Itself

You're asumming there's a possibility Hillary Clinton takes Bill Richardson as her running mate and carries FL, CO, AZ, and NM...Assuming NY and Cali are in the bag for the Dems how do the Rethuglicans ever get to 270 Electoral College Votes

[...of J.Temperance]

8. Florida WILL be a tough fight again

I can't rightly say that I'm sure we can nail Florida.

I think Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, Montana and Indiana would be easier than Florida....especially IF Senator Evan Bayh is on the ticket, I think he could pull Indiana into our column....he's been their longtime Governor and now is their longtime Senator.

[wiseguy182]

9. not really

the republicans could keep Iowa, and flip New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, for example. That would be around 270, give or take, I don't have the math to look at right now.

[...of J.Temperance]

15. As IF the GOP are going to win Pennsylvania....Jaysus....Man on Dog got thumped there

Less than two years ago....and Governor Ed Rendell helps us with Pennsylvania as well.

[wiseguy182]

17. true but..

true but, Kerry and Gore didn't win the state in landslides though,did they?

[...of J.Temperance]

20. No, but they WON the state though....didn't they? n/t

.

[wiseguy182]

22. yeah, but

Bush was conservative. If a moderate is the GOP candidate and faces a liberal, I would say the state's more likely to go repub in that instance. I can't guarantee it of course, but a moderate might fair better than one to the far end of the spectrum. Keep in mind, the state usually votes for GOP senators, last year we did well though in that regard.

[...of J.Temperance]

25. None of the GOP candidates are Moderates....and Hillary isn't a Liberal, she's a Centrist

So there's your answer.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. Elections Have A Rhythm And A Flow

If a Dem is carrying Florida, Colorado, and New Mexico as you suggest he or she is also carrying stars like Pennsylvania and Massachusetts...

If a Dem can't carry Massachussetts that Dem is probably on the way to losing forty nine or fifty states..

[...of J.Temperance]

36. Have I upset you somehow? Do you have me on Ignore?

My post # 8, I thought you might have given your opinion on us being able to possibly get Nevada, Montana, Indiana IF Senator Evan Bayh is on the ticket as Veep.


On Edit: Post # 8 I mean

[cali]

7. Wow. Did you just demonstrate how little you know about MA politics

or what? No way, no how, that Romney can win in MA. It's just not possible.

I actually think Clinton would beat Romney like a cheap drum. His record of flip flops is so astounding, and her machine is so good, that she'd beat him to a pulp.

[wiseguy182]

11. hmmm

well he was the governor of the state, so I wouldn't call it a guarantee at this point.

[...of J.Temperance]

19. William Weld was the Governor of Massachucetts, but he didn't win the Senate seat

When he ran for it....and Weld was far more popular a Governor of Massachucetts than Romney was.

[cali]

31. The MA electorate will, from time to time, vote for a

repuke 'moderate' for Guv. They won't send a rppuke of any stripe to DC. Ain't gonna happen.

[...of J.Temperance]

13. But but but....Mittens has got such

Nice HAIR!

You mean those utter heathens in Massachucetts ain't going to vote for Mittens' nice HAIR? Damn those anti-American so and so's!

:sarcasm:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. Here's A Massachusetts Poll-Romney Has Some Work To Do

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=f542bc06-fbfb-4e39-818d-d94f16ec0cd8&q=41153

[johncoby2]

18. Do something progressive for once will ya?

Gloom and doom. gloom and doom.

If this country is stupid enough to vote for a republican for president, then they deserve everything they get.

And if Democrats are stupid enough to help them, then WE deserve everything we dont get.

[wiseguy182]

21. do you know me?

do you know me? No, then don't speculate.

You guys keep serving them up, and I keep knocking them out of the park

[...of J.Temperance]

23. You keep "knocking them out of the park" do you?

*chuckle*

[wiseguy182]

28. yup

I think I've successfully defended everything in this post.

you people don't seem to get it. i'll surround myself with more intelligent people. adios.

[...of J.Temperance]

29. Huh?

:beer:

[cali]

33. you're kidding right?

yikes. No you haven't. Did you even check the polls in MA for Romney?

Just out of curiosity, where are you from? You don't seem to have a very good grasp of New England politics.

[...of J.Temperance]

37. According to his user profile, it says he's from Michigan n/t

.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Knocking Them Out Of The Park

You said Romney would carry Massachussetts...

He's losing it by thirty points...

I'll get the polls for NH, IA, and PN that you said he would carry now...

[...of J.Temperance]

27. Let's face it....the Republican candidate is ALSO going win these:

Rhode Island, Vermont and the District of Columbia!!!!

I'm SERIES!!!

:sarcasm:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. Here

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportPopup.aspx?g=2dbaa9be-dfa7-499e-9aa6-e748067ea7ca&q=41153

Iowa



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/pa/pennsylvania_romney_vs_clinton-366.html

PN


Can't find a NH poll right now...

[...of J.Temperance]

35. Apparently, he's taken his ball and gone home....see his post # 28

We're not "intelligent people" according to him.

Lol! Some people ALWAYS have a great problem when forced to like, face reality....instead of fantasy.

[johncoby2]

26. You must be playing wiffle ball.

With yourself.

[denem]

32. I don't see defeat in 2008. I see victory! - and not a moment too soon.

[Perry Logan]

38. If the folks at DU can't predict the future, who can?

[onehandle]

39. The Republicans don't have a chance to win in 2008.

I was worried about Thompson for about minute until he came out of the gate and was an instant joke.

Their whole line up are extremists, "marginalists", and "personalities."

Face it. Whoever we nominate, will win.

[cooolandrew]

40. Richardson is vastly under-rated, very smart and great sense of humour too. video link...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hM-e1ywxJs

[lojasmo]

42. Anybody beats Clinton. EOM.

[TwilightGardener]

43. LOL! Romney won't beat her, and Hucky won't be on the ticket--

people are starting to find out his skeletons--he's directly responsible for a woman's rape and murder, and he's also got a lot of ethics problems. Romney is ultimately not very likable--anyone who has a problem with Hillary sure isn't going to find Mittens much better.