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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:20 PM
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The Hillary people are milking the Obama-McCurdle debacle for all its worth
The Hillary people are milking the Obama-McCurdle debacle for all its worth. But sometimes when you are milking something, it is a real cow and real milk that you are dealing with. That is what is happening here!

I have been among one of the harshes critics of Hillary on this board, but this time I'll have to admit that their "girl" would have never shown the insensitivity, the tone deafness, the incompetence, and the political inexperience that your "guy" has shown in handling this issue.

There is a new thread about Obama appealing to Hispanics in Iowa. One wonders how he will offend another Democratic constituency. Will he invoke the name of Reggie White? (You can Google that one!)

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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:22 PM
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1. Actually some seem to be coming to Obama's defense.
Probably recognizing that the only way Hillary can win is to keep the anti-Hillary vote divided between Obama and Edwards. If either campaign collapsed, Hillary would get beat.


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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:49 AM
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20. Now THAT'S triangulation
Or triangle trade, or something like that.

If true, it would be a brilliant strategy.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:25 PM
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2. The McClurkin issue is bigger over here
than in the outside world. It has proven to have little traction, regardless of how hard it has been pushed into the MSM. They didn't seem to treat it as a big deal.

And NO, this is not minimizing the issue or being insensitive to the LGBT community- it's just an analysis of the political effects of the issue so far- very small they have been up to this point.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:30 PM
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4. Keith Olbermann mentioned the controversy tonight
during the first segment of his show.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:35 PM
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6. It has been mentioned, but it doesn't seem to have any steam
to actually hurt Obama. In fact, more people are paying attention at his new, more confrontational rhetoric than anything else.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:51 AM
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21. These things take time
We're less than two days away from Donnie's little lovefest.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:25 PM
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3. That highlights her campaign's most redeeming feature
Her campaign knows how to campaign. They're not going to get caught dragging their heels, dithering on how to respond to some Swiftboat-esque attack. They're not going to let Hillary's opponents get away with major gaffes. Her message and record may leave much to be desired, but at least her campaign is run by true professionals, which is more than I can say for most of the other candidates.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:41 PM
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7. And they are also not going to let her open her mouth for a single sound-byte
until it has been thoroughly regression tested so that she knows exactly what she 'believes'.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:32 PM
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5. It would be easier to list the people who aren't milking this:
Those who have not hammered Obama over the McCurdle debacle:
  • The Black Congressional Caucus
  • George Will
  • Campus Crusade for Christ

Did I miss anyone?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:41 PM
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8. Obama supporters?
:P
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:54 PM
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10. West Bank settlers
:P
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:55 PM
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11. Yes. You missed someone
Joe Lieberman
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:56 PM
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12. Rick Santorum
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:47 PM
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9. you mean?


i`m disappointed in him because he put himself in this situation . there seems to be no middle ground anymore on this issue. oh well it`s another day at du.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 10:59 PM
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13. Seems like the Hillary bashers have been milking anything they can bash her with
for all its worth. When it came to the pet thing that did it for me...how damn filthy low can you go...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:34 AM
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19. exactly
how is that Obama fucks up and it becomes a platform for beating up on Clinton? It's laughable.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 10:53 AM
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22. Thank you. Obama supporters can't defend him on this, so they trash Clinton?
How childish.

I support Kucinich. If he invited a white supremacist or Holocaust denier up on stage to MC a major campaign event I'd be very angry with Kucinich. I wouldn't respond by trashing Hillary Clinton or her supporters.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:00 PM
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14. Hillary. The pot calling the kettle black.
She is no better than Obama. People are defending both simply because they believe one of them "might" be able to take the White House because they're both raising the big bucks. You don't "buy" the White House. But some might wonder if you "buy" the primary.

That aside, either of them probably will guarantee the Republican candidate will be our next president. Especially if the two are on the same ticket. Which most expect they will be.

There ARE other candidates to consider. And if everyone was smart, they would do just that. Consider the other candidates. Just imagine what the Republicans will do with either or both of these hypocrites on the Democratic ticket. Imagine what the Republicans will do to either or both of them. The "attacks" on DU are nothing compared to what the Republicans will do. And don't think for one minute that Karl Rove has retired. He is sitting somewhere salivating at the thought of having Clinton or Obama as his next target. And they are easy targets.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 11:03 PM
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15. If everyone were smart
Dennis Kicinich would be the front-runner. He's the ONLY ONE who speaks the "unvarnished" truth.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 04:41 AM
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17. Right. of course. It's just the brilliant few that can
see who should be the frontrunner. Everyone else is an idiot.

I agree with much of what Dennis says, but I think he's unable to run a campaign- or isn't serious about it. He's never been able to build coalitions and get things done in the House. That doesn't speak well about his leadership capabilities.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 12:48 AM
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16. The only place I even hear it mentioned is here
people arn't tuned into this stuff.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-30-07 05:33 AM
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18. The Hillary people?
maybe the gay people are.

Anybody who defends Obama on this particular issue can bend over for me.
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