On not voting in the general election: That's certainly your right

[cali]

and I don't have any particular interest in trying to convince you, let alone bully you into doing so.

Lord knows, there have been enough posts about how people won't vote in the general election. And why they choose not to. Usually it comes down to the statement that there isn't enough difference between the dems and the repukes. Shades of Ralph Nader. To believe that, I think you're either terribly misinformed or willfully obtuse for whatever reasons.

Trumpeting that you're not going to vote in the general election, and meaning it, indicates the following to me:

You don't really care much about children

You don't actually care about abortion rights.

You don't care about stem cell research.

You don't care about people with serious illnesses.

You don't care about people living in poverty.

You don't care about foreign policy.

You don't care about the Supreme Court or the Federal Bench

and

you don't care about the environment.


At least you don't care enough.

[natrat]

1. uh,,,,so i guess the current crop of our elcted scumbags cares about any of that? give me a break

[unpossibles]

2. yes frankly, some of them do

does doing nothing change anything?

Other than perhaps make you feel superior. Run for office amd get back to us how that works for you.

EDIT:
"elected scumbags"? :eyes:

[cali]

7. The answer to that would be yes.

Hillary Clinton worked for the Children's Defence Fund as a young woman, and stayed involved with their advocacy work for children. She has a long history of supporting and advocating for abortion rights, and women's rights. She's far better on GLBT issues than any repuke.

Barak Obama worked for an inner city advocacy group as an attny, bypassing a big bucks job at a big law firm. He was against the Iraq war from the start. He too support abortion rights, expanding healthcare, etc.

John Edwards has been passionate about doing something about poverty. He's pro-choice, and supports ending the war.

All three would appoint reasonable Justices and judges. All three would engage on Climate change. All three would talk to Iran.

And on and on.

[MADem]

3. Well said, Cali. Those posts crack me up, because the posters think it's something to be PROUD of

"Say, I'm an asshole who is completely unable to abandon lockstep ideological purity, because I'm SPECIAL!!! I see the world FAR BETTER than the rest of you plebian SCHMUCKS!!!! For this reason, I am abrogating my responsibility as an American citizen, and instead, going on the internet and scolding, in superior fashion, anyone who disagrees with my PROFOUND"--and it must be profound--"assertion that the END IS NEAR!!! Abandon HOPE...because 'I'--keyboard commando and expert hectorer, said so!!!! They're ALL the SAME, I tell ya, they're ALL the SAME!!"

:rofl:

[William769]

5. Not to go off topic but...

I LOVE THOSE PICTURES!

[Sparkly]

4. Yup

I said recently that I think it's less about what they see in Democrats, and more about what they don't see in the Republicans. (Naturally, I got flamed to a crisp for that!)

[provis99]

6. and you don't care the Democratic leaders are Bush enablers

the only difference between Democratic leaders and Republican leaders is the Republicans stab you in the chest; Democrats stab you in the back.

[cali]

9. Why do you hate women, children and poor people?

Or is it that you love your own false narrative more?

[MADem]

10. THE END IS NEAR!!!!! Abandon Hope!!!!

:rofl:

[LoZoccolo]

13. Lame. n/t

[CK_John]

8. Give the "decision challenged" a break, it's hard, they might pick the wrong one. n/t

[killbotfactory]

11. Our system is too corrupt

Our country is run by war criminals and there's no guarantee our votes will even be counted.

[cali]

12. Why don't you start End-of-the-world Underground

if that's how you feel?

[killbotfactory]

18. We heading there if we don't change our ways

No one is being held accountable for blatantly lying to start the last war, and Bush is out there threatening another one, while our frontrunner is accusing the Iranian military of being terrorists, accepting the claims of Bush sans proof, while claiming it's in the name of diplomacy. We have enourmous amounts of graft and corruption going on in Iraq with all the games military contractors play, to the tune of them ripping off the US by BILLIONS, and no one is stepping up to challenge them, instead our frontrunner hired the brilliant PR strategists who used to work for the worst of them. Our lifestyle of ridiculous consumption is driving the last war, and it will inspire new ones. We can't figure out an excuse to give everyone healthcare, but you can damn well be sure we've cooked up numerous justifications for sending our military into any third world country on Earth who has natural resources we want cheap access to. We are incapable of addressing our ridiculous levels of consumption, which is causing global warming as well as motivating previous and current wars, because if people stop buying so much shit it may very well crash our economy.

But enough of that, let's get back to the real issues like flag pins.

[cali]

19. maybe you could speed it up.

That's where you belong. You've chosen hopelessness. Good for you.
I can recognize all those things, and still see that the best chance to reverse or overcome lies with a dem president and increased dem majorities.

And of course it has jackshit to do with flag pins, and everything to do with those issues I listed in my OP.

[killbotfactory]

20. I see huge problems and no one willing to step up to them

I don't think our government is capable of, or interested in, addressing these issues.

Besides that I live in a red state where my vote for president most won't matter.

[cali]

21. There are huge problems that will only be magnified by another

repuke president and repuke control of Congress. And I feel for you living in a red state. That must color how you see things.

[killbotfactory]

22. I'm going to vote no matter what, I just understand people who are fed up

Being forced to choose between bad and worse isn't very inspiring.

[cobalt1999]

14. I laugh at the posters that say they won't vote in the General unless their candidate is the nominee

I haven't seen such immature behavior since elementary school, and no one gives a shit about their little temper tantrums. However, those people while not intellectually stimulating, they are good for entertainment.

[cuke]

15. Me also

Most of them are lying. We have lots of big talkers. "Ten feet tall in ASCII" is what they are

[Forkboy]

16. "I don't have any particular interest in trying to convince you"

He said before proving that to be false. ;)

[cali]

17. Nope. I truly don't care about convincing anyone on DU to

vote. I do care about expressing contempt for that mindset.

[LWolf]

23. I'm glad to see that you are so uninterested in

persuading and bullying that you felt the need to begin a thread about us.

:rofl:

Some might think that the incessant arrogance and need to not just judge other Democrats, but repeatedly trumpet those judgments publicly on DU might carry a slight taint of bullying. But OF COURSE, you're not interested in that, either. :eyes:

Some people are interested in expressing their thoughts and opinions without belligerence, and some people glory in judging others.

Of course, your opinions are not gospel, are not scripture, are not law, are not unbiased, and, in this case, are flat out bullshit.

I'll be sure to toss them out with the next load of manure I haul out of my barn.