Another reason why being Black and voting Republican is like being a chicken voting for KFC

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/18/AR2007091801781.html?nav=rss_politics

Tavis Smiley's forum...The GOP frontrunners ain't showing up

What's the win?" said the adviser, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject. "Why would go into a crowd where they're probably going to be booed?"

I wonder what campaign that adviser works for? My money says its Guiliani

[wildhorses]

1. i know this black guy

who told me he would vote for satan before he would vote for a democrat. i give up. he has drank too much kool-aid.

i mention black cos the op did. i know white people who have said the same thing.

please don't flame me.

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

2. I'm a black guy.. :)

And I approved this message. :)

I once went to a "Black Republicans Forums" and I noticed something.

1. You don't find too many Black Folks at those things.
It's wild. I saw maybe 20-25 black folks. Hell, I saw more Ann Coulter wannabees than black folks.
2. The black folks you do see there? These people actually make excuses for being pulled over for DWB.
3. The black conservative Republican folks just don't like black people period. If you don't agree with them, you are lower than dirt. I love my people too much to have that kind of attitude.

But it doesn't surprise me that the GOP candidate for the most part are opting out of the Tavis Smiley forum. This what the Democratic Party needs to do in 2008, get every black, brown and poor white person who feel they have no stake in the game to register and vote and give them good reason to vote for us.
If we do that, the Republicans will need a billion Diebold machines..and they still won't beat us.

It doesn't matter who gets our nomination, they need to be thinking in this mindset.

[wildhorses]

4. welcome to du

:hi:

[beaconess]

11. You are SO right!!!

This what the Democratic Party needs to do in 2008, get every black, brown and poor white person who feel they have no stake in the game to register and vote and give them good reason to vote for us.
If we do that, the Republicans will need a billion Diebold machines..and they still won't beat us.

This can NOT be said enough!!!

[zbdent]

5. How much does he get paid for being "the black Republican"?

It's like all the workers who "get better benefits/pay" for working in a non-union shop ... until the unions are gone ... and then you have Jose Elegal Immigracionez doing their job at a fraction of the pay ...

You get all the attention and the benefits, until you become the majority (unlikely) ... then you're screwed ...

[wildhorses]

6. he works for an insurance company ---

just sayin'

:hide:

[zbdent]

7. that's not exactly disagreeing with my point ...

(not attacking you) since the insurance industry wrote a bunch of legislation that the Republicans drool over ...

[wildhorses]

8. this man is a personal friend of mine

we just have to agree to disagree a lot.

[zbdent]

3. what ... the party that thinks that

the "Confederate flag", nooses in "the white tree", and $$$ are free speech, but letters and actual speech is not free speech?

[ChipperbackDemocrat]

9. The Flag, The White Tree and Jena

Folks get too fired up about the Confederate Flag. I'm US history buff, so I have a Confederate Flag..I own some civil war memorabilia.

I find the people who fly that flag today screaming "Southern Heritage" as rather silly. Not because the flag isn't a part of South. It is. It's because the people today who are waving it are reacting to 1964, not 1864. The only "Southern Heritage" that they are "celebrating" is resentment about Civil Rights. Most of these people think Robert E. Lee is Alabama's starting quarterback and Stonewall Jackson is his left tackle protecting his blindside.

The whole Rebel flag is largely a reaction to all the gains our society has made toward civilzation. Its funny, I live in Connecticut and I see more Confederate flags up here and in Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine as I do when I visit my aunt in Texas or my daddy's kin in Arkansas. This isn't about Reconstruction...These people are dang upset that their kid sit next to "Nigra" or "Mooslim" kids in school. That's what its really about. This is about some people getting jumpy because there some "homosexy'all and damn liz-bi-anns" on our block.

I don't get too fired up about it, because most thinking people or all stripes see the silliness for what it is.

Now the Jena situation...I'm reminded of what I learned as a boy. Two wrongs don't make a right.

The first wrong lies with kids who don't agree with the "bigots" not standing up. The best way to deal with the "white tree". One day all the black and white kids who don't agree that its a "White Tree" one day just mosey on over and sit there. If the group hanging nooses shows up and says "It's a White Tree," all those kids can calmly say.."Nope, its OUR tree. You are welcome to sit here is well."

'Nuff said. Nonviolent Noncooperation.

When the "nooses" came out. The students of the school in unity should have just taken them down, and put them on display on the front door and leave a sign saying. "THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE AT JENA HIGH, PERIOD."

The problem is all the good kids let a few bad kids set them tempo. Part of it is our fault as an older generation. When it came to civil rights, we figured "we had our eyes on the prize"...But the prize is still out there." We've gone back. Look at the recent decision about school desegregation. We've gone back..and I regret to say that too many of my people, who know better, have gone along with it. You don't think our children don't notice?

Why do you think a school board would overturn the right thing to do? Because of that retrenchment and resentment. We've going back, people...And I don't like it. We've come too far as a society to go back to Jim Crow and Dred Scott. All right thinking people in Jena should call immediately for replacing those official. That prinicipal did the right thing and was overtuned by resentment and ignorance that willed people to do the wrong thing. That school board action empowered that group of kid put up nooses. Its not better than the sheriff turning the other way at a lynching 60 years ago. It was another wrong of many. And the real crime of it is, this became just a 'black' issue, and its BIGGER ISSUE THAN THAT. THIS IS A REAL CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS. This is Civilization and Humanity vs. Savagery and Ignorance...and in Jena, Louisiana the Savagery and Ignorance is kicking some serious booty right now.

Now the "Jena 6", I don't agree with them either. If I've read the accounts right..this violence started because somebody said "so-so got beat up by a white boy". Well, that disagreement was one-on-one,if the disagreement happened. Remember hearsay in a high school is always subject to embelishment. The retaliation was six-on-one. Those six kids committed an act of violence, they should be punished for it. Their response was the second wrong.

[riqster]

10. Black, Gay, Female, Poor, Working-Class Reeps are NOT thinking

...they may be brainwashed, they may be manipulated, they may be ignorant, but their votes are not the product of thoughtful decisions.

I have a number of friends in all of the above categories (with the exception of gays-all my gay friends know better than to vote Reep), and when you go through the issues point-by-point, they always have opinions that are 180 degrees away from ReepThink. But then, they go out and vote Reep anyway. Because their preacher/parent/partner told them to, because they watch too much Fox or listen to Rush, whatever the reason, they are voting like programmed robots, with one exception: the greedy among them. If amassing wealth is their goal in life, they'll vote Reep with malice aforethought.


Look at Clarence Thomas-affirmative action helped him reach his present position, and now he opposes it. He doesn't care if other black people (or people in general) have opportunity- he has his, and screw the rest of us. It's an egocentric thing, modern Republicanism.