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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:01 PM
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Ex-Clinton Administration officials who are dubious?
Mike McCurry is lobbying against Net Neutrality.

Jamie S. Gorelick is seeking retroactive-immunity for phone companies who destroyed our privacy.

Lanny J. Davis bashed the liberal blog "The Daily Kos" in a Wall Street Journal op-ed.

Can you name any others?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:03 PM
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1. Why don't you state up front who you're stomping for?
Because this back door attack is beyond disingenuous.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:08 PM
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6. I voted for Kucinich in 2004. NT
NT
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:54 PM
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16. Why link this posting to this campaign? There are many people who
revered Bill Clinton and didn't see the things that we're learning. It is raw disappointment to learn what these people are doing and what they've said since 2000. So question - there can't be an exchange about past close aides and defenders without tying it to this campaign?

Are any of the three mentioned working for the Senators campaign? If not, isn't analysis permitted? I like lists and the organization that comes with learning - they are aides to memory.

DU is about education and sharing. For me, by me, of me.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:16 PM
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19. Raw disappointment to learn what these people are doing?
That's it, you simply believe without question anything anyone posts, and experience this "raw disappointment" in your brain?

It's a pack of lies, these "dubious" assertations.

You might want think about being a little kinder to your brain.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 03:35 PM
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21. I read about McCurry before today. Is it not true? What are you
getting at - are you saying it's not true?

If true, it's raw disappointment to me.

If you're talking about Gorelick - it's true that I don't know if it's true or not - so, are you saying that it's not true about Gorelick?

Are you advocating some kind of process that DUers should go through.

I do research myself and I'm frequently saying that i'm waiting for the other side of a story or that I'm not believing anything since Yahoo didn't demand more than four short paragraphs to cover the story that someone linked to.

The more I write the less I understand about what you're saying?
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 04:58 PM
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22. Let's put it this way then - You beleive McCurry is being dubious because ...
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 04:59 PM by Maribelle
he is not pro Net Neturality, or having the FCC dictate how the internet will roll out? Did I clearly state your point? If not, please correct me.

Then, let's clarify this even further, shall we. Based on three definitions of dubious below, which of the three best fits your impression of Dubious McCurry, 1, 2 or 3.

dubious adj

1. unsure about outcome: not sure about an outcome or conclusion
I was a little dubious about whether or not to trust him.


2. possibly dishonest or immoral: likely to be dishonest, untrustworthy, or morally worrisome in some way
It's a dubious proposition.


3. of uncertain quality: of uncertain quality, intention, or appropriateness
The thesis is based on several dubious assumptions.


Please clarify this one.

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:04 PM
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2. Out of how many 'Ex-Clinton Administration officials'?
You named 3. How many do you suppose there were over 8 years?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:05 PM
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3. The Dailykos blog gets bashed on DU. That makes Davis "dubious?"
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:07 PM
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4. DUers don't claim that Daily Kos is anti-semitic,
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 12:07 PM by Eric J in MN
...as far as I've seen.

Misleading people about Comments at a liberal blog to argue that the blog is anti-semitic does make Lanny J. Davis dubious.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:11 PM
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7. there are anti-semitic post on Dkos
Markos, addressing this on Hardball, said he has no control over what people post there.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:18 PM
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8. What do you think of this op-ed by Lanny J. Davis?
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:22 PM
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9. I believe Davis held back
Liberal Fundamentalism has the potential to be as big a problem as Conservative Fundamentalism.
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cmkramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 10:19 PM
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23. I bet he said it with a straight face too.
I read Lanny Davis' op-ed about DAILYKOS. I thought it was fairly mild myself.

Problem is the lefty blogs can dish it out, but they can't take it.

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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:50 PM
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14. Lanny Davis did not claim the Daily Kos is anti-semitic
He, however, did not like the post of tomjones, did he now.

Lanny Davis is unambiguous and truthful, the opposite of dubious.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:54 PM
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17. tomjones was being sarcastic.
If Lanny Davis cared about the truth instead of just wanting to smear Daily Kos, he'd have realized taht.
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Maribelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:08 PM
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18. He did not smear Daily Kos.
He did not call Daily Kos anti-semetic, and he did not smear them. Not only that, I think that Daily Kos is big and brave enough not to worry.

And if tomjones was merely being sarcastic, it probably was unclear.

Perhaps you and Ore Eyeley need a rality check.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:40 PM
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12. Don't worry............
Such Flame-bait threads are just a reflection of their abusive, impotent personalities ....They have no where else to channel frustration. Remember the bully in the school yard type...No one here really cares....honestly.

I pay attention to what our Candidates actually say and do.......That's what has impact, not a flame bait junkie thread at DU.
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:08 PM
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5. So who all signed the letter?......
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 12:17 PM by antigop
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/09/money_party_vs_people_party_du_1.html

edit to add following excerpt:
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I'm probably underestimating the extent of corporate influence here, too, considering some others on the letter likely work at big corporations or corporate front groups, but aren't technically registered as lobbyists. For instance, the corporate-funded Democratic Leadership Council's Will Marshall is one of the signatories.

So there you have it - as populist Senators fight for the middle class and fight for workers abroad, a slew of former Clinton administration officials-turned-lobbyists is working directly with the Bush White House to try to ram a set of new NAFTAs through Congress.
>>
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:27 PM
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10. And your point is?
You forgot to mention Dick Morris. I suppose he is an undercover Clinton mole working to undermine america also?
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:35 PM
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11. Did he sign the letter? n/t
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:44 PM
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13. and your point is??
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 12:52 PM
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15. A recent article by Glenn Greenwald said Jamie S. Gorelick is advising...
...phone companies who destroyed our privacy on how to get Congress to give them retroactive-immunity.

I was wondering what other ex-Clinton officials are up to.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/22/telecom_immunity/index.html
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antigop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-23-07 01:54 PM
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20. How many ex-Clinton officials signed the letter?
Edited on Sun Sep-23-07 01:56 PM by antigop
http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/09/money_party_vs_people_party_du_1.html

edit to add following excerpt:
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I'm probably underestimating the extent of corporate influence here, too, considering some others on the letter likely work at big corporations or corporate front groups, but aren't technically registered as lobbyists. For instance, the corporate-funded Democratic Leadership Council's Will Marshall is one of the signatories.

So there you have it - as populist Senators fight for the middle class and fight for workers abroad, a slew of former Clinton administration officials-turned-lobbyists is working directly with the Bush White House to try to ram a set of new NAFTAs through Congress.
>>

<edit> fix link
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