The plan is obvious: Leave Iraq and the ensuing chaos for the next President.

[calteacherguy]

If it's a Democratic President, Democrats will be blamed for "losing Iraq."

If it's a Republican President, we will have four more years of the same. If we have stronger Democratic majorites in the House and Senate and act to stop the occupation under a (hypothetical) new Republican President, Democrats will be blamed for "losing Iraq." Basically, the occupation continues until a Democrat is elected President, then the Democratic President gets blamed for "losing Iraq."

Please convince me this scenario is unlikely.

[Olney Blue]

1. Oh, it's the scenerio, alright.

I wish I could argue that you are wrong, but you are right.

[Kutjara]

2. I think that's exactly the plan.

The whole steaming pile is going to be dropped on the Dems doorstep. The only question is will it be sooner or later?

[Seabiscuit]

9. The only way out before January, 2009 is for the Dems to hold up any spending bill

for Iraq in committee and never allow another Iraq spending bill on the floor of the House or Senate. That way they don't need ANY votes, and can't use the lame excuse that they don't have enough votes.

Dennis Kucinich has been saying this all along, and he said it again today on the Ed Schulz show, and also said that all the other things the Dems are saying are pure BS, in so many words. They already have the money to get the troops out. The only unknown is whether Bush will be so stubborn as to leave the troops there without any funding.

[Lisa]

3. alas, it looks all too credible (given what we've already seen of how they operate)

1) grab all the credit you can, even if it's undeserved
2) shift all the blame you can, even onto those who weren't responsible
3) use every possible opportunity to get what you want, even if it means ruthlessly exploiting people who trusted you

[flpoljunkie]

4. Bush in 2006: "We're not leaving, so long as I'm the President."

This is what the surge has been about--kicking the can down the road, and leaving "Messopotamia" for the next President to clean up.

No matter the cost in lives and treasure.

[pansypoo53219]

5. georgie

has never cleaned up any of his messes.

[Generator]

6. Yes but will the Democratic candidates be smart enough

to call them on this? I doubt it. Of course if they aren't smart enough to find a way to get the troops out before they are president, they probably don't deserve to be president. OH YES, I can hear the apologists-it's not their fault-well yes and no---but do everything they can-giving a speech is not doing everything you can. I'm so disgusted with them all..I don't know why voting is such a privilege anymore. It feels like something dirty.

[Imagevision]

7. If The Dem's were smart they would set themselves up to prevent the fall, but

they're pretty stupid! they'll wait to accused of losing the war and T-h-e-n come up with a defense
(dumb!)

[MasonJar]

8. No one with a grain of sense will ever blame anyone but Bush/Cheney

for the Iraq pre-emptive war. He wanted it; he got it; he gets total credit. Bush has a really thwarted and deranged sociopathic personality. He deludes himself that history will make him a great man. He is incapable of believing that he isn't always right; he is also no doubt coked to the gills most of the time. Otherwise he would never be allowed in public.

[Initech]

10. Bush himself said that the fate of Iraq would be for future leaders to decide.

And since the future leader will most likely be a democrat, um, gee, I wonder what he meant by that?

[jillan]

11. As Biden said

They have no clue how to fix this mess, so they are trying to keep enough support going by the repugs to keep it going until
bsh can pass it off to the next Prez.

And the repugs say that *we* play politics with our troops.

[gateley]

12. I fear you're correct about dumping everything in a Dem Prez's lap,

but I'm sure most people would know it wasn't our doing and would hold B&C accountable. And Biden repeatedly says "we have NO wiggle room", letting us know that it'll be tough.

[Rageneau]

13. And blame it on one of the Clintons.

[illinoisprogressive]

14. the losing Iraq is another in the gop's fear tactics.

And if no one stops it everyone will be blamed for it
Either dems get a backbone and do it regardless or be blamed for not stopping it.