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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:19 PM
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Kerry, Edwards Folks. What's Your Pitch To My Dean Support Group?
OK, its over for my group in the Dean campaign. Are there any Kerry supporters here anymore. Any Edwards folk.

Look like it is Kerry or Edwards going forward. Kerry obviously has a more progressive record than Edward (despite what the Edwards folks want to say these days), so my group is leaning towards working for Kerry. But, most of us are open to persuasion.

So, what is the biggest reason for Dean supporters to join your camp?

If you want us to join your camp, what the process?

Do you have an ex-Dean package. There is no Kerry or Edwards campaign office or meetup in my town?

How do we get involved and make a difference working with one of your campaigns?
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:20 PM
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1. How do you view trade issues?
If you're anti-NAFTA go with Edwards. I'll post more later, I'm excited about the results in Wisconsin.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:23 PM
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2. If you're anti-NAFTA and want to get out,
you've got to get out of the WTO too. DK : the candidate who will notify the WTO and NAFTA that we are getting out, in the first week of his Presidency.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:24 PM
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3. hmmm....
how can one switch loyalities so fast and so soon? I don't get it.....

pardon my cynicism. :(
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:26 PM
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4. Your "Dean support group" ??
Can you elaborate, please?
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eileen_d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:30 PM
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6. That's what I was thinking.
Maybe s/he meant "supporters" :shrug:
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:17 PM
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10. A group of us who do letters and calls together and now are loosing it
together. For the past weeks we've been keeping one another from
being too depressed. Sorry I don't have the right language.
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mgc1961 Donating Member (874 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:29 PM
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5. If you want to keep...
...with the anti-NAFTA theme and you're against the Iraq war and subsequent occupation I think you should consider Kucinich.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:32 PM
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7. Steve Grossman will show y'all the way!
Just open up your hearts!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:35 PM
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12. Resign Yourself To It, Sir
There will be more and more of this as the depth of the rejection sinks in. Gov. Dean is not the people's choice; rather, he is about the farthest thing from it....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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WonderGrunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:25 AM
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20. I'm pretty sure
that Lyndon Larouche is the farthest thing from the people's choice. Dean is number two or three in most states that have voted.
Kind Sir, be sure that your eloquence is not overshadowed by hyperbole lest you disenfranchise the electorate from properly procurring their desired candidate.

"I want my country back!"
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:34 PM
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8. Edwards runs his campaign more like Dean's...
At least in my town.

The Edwards group here isn't made up of people who have been involved in politics for a long time, we don't really have a lot of connection to any central campaign headquarters, and many things are run by unpaid volunteers.

Personally, I am involved with running a completely volunteer-run web site: http://www.winwithedwards.com

I also collect Cable News TV transcripts and e-mail them to the campaign each day. There are many other volunteers like me around the country doing similar little things

We write letters and do phone calls through our web site at http://www.johnedwards2004.com/home.asp

I feel like we are much more similar in organization to the Dean campaign, although we certainly don't have the same grassroots numbers.

I think what distinguishes Edwards from Kerry as a candidate is his passion. In this way, I see him very similar to Howard Dean in that they have strong convictions and there are things that they really believe in. They both also have fiery populist rhetoric: "You have the power" vs. "I can't change this country by myself, but I know you and I can do it together."

The issues that Edwards is passionate about are taxing wealth instead of work, helping people in poverty, providing health care to all children, and getting big business out of Washington.

I feel like Edwards has been in Washington just long enough to know what's wrong with it, and he will shake up the government a lot more than Kerry will. This is most obvious in his very specific proposals to clean up Washington: http://www.johnedwards2004.com/cleaning-up-washington.asp

If you want to get involved, it's very easy to do online if you go to: http://www.johnedwards2004.com/volunteer.asp

Feel free to ask me any more questions you may have.
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 09:37 PM
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9. I'll play along for Edwards first, then Kerry
Dean supporters have shwon themselves to being very positive, very enegetic, and determined people who want to make a diference. John Edwards has has been honest, positive, nspiring and also wanting to make a difference. Same with Kerry. The final choice you have is which style you agree with more.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:30 PM
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11. I'm still a Dean supporter, Edwards my 2nd choice
To me Edwards seems more geniune, a better speaker/debater, and more able to beat Bush.

I actually believe that Edwards cares about ordinary people, while John Kerry, IMHO, cares only about himself.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:38 PM
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13. Edwards is my 2nd choice also. I trust him on trade and economics more
than Kerry. Those are my prority issues.
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-17-04 10:39 PM
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14. the only reason to switch is because you want to
you know where these the remaining guys stand, which one is right for you ?
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:38 AM
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15. Kerry is prepared to take the country in the right direction
He has a record which tells what direction he will go in
even if we don't know the specifics.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:42 AM
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16. Just meet for beers or something, then support the nominee
if your heart isn't in it, why bother at this point?
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DemDogs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 02:55 AM
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17. Edwards and Dean
I am surprised that you think Dean's positions are closer to Kerry's than to Edwards. Are there any votes that make you think so? The only way they are closer together than Dean is to Edwards is that Dean and Kerry supported NAFTA when it was passed, but Dean (and Kerry) now take the position that Edwards has taken all along.
Like Dean, Edwards is the outsider. Like Dean, Edwards has criticized Washington lobbyist money. Like Dean, Edwards is a fiscally responsible, not promising everything. Like Dean, Edwards is more a grass roots campaign without institutional or big endorsers supporting it. (When you get a call from an Edwards supporter, it is simply an Edwards supporter, not someone working for a union or the staff member of a Washington insider who has jumped on the Kerry bandwagon.) Like Dean, Edwards can excite the base and bring new people to the Democratic column, some of whome are new voters, some of who are independents who connect with Edwards. Like Dean, Edwards hits a chord with his audience and they really connect with him. Like Dean, Edwards has a good, functional family. AND Dean likes Edwards. Dean says Edwards is the more electable.
He says it for a good reason: Edwards is more electable. The Democrats will turn out in November united to beat Bush, but we can't do it without independent votes. Edwards wins 'em in the key states we need to turn from red to blue. Dean sees it. Hope you do, too.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 03:58 AM
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18. This is what's going on in America: Bush is transferring as much
wealth as possible -- wealth accumulated in public assets, and from tax revenues, and from the future -- to the wealthiest Americans today.

Only one candidate has organized his campaign around the principle that wealth should flow the other direction -- John Edwards. Just like Keynes and FDR knew, a society is the wealthiest and strongest and most progressive when economic, cultural and political power flows down to people who work for a living and outwards, rather than up, and narrowly. That's what Edwards is fighting for.

And he is live is a living symbol of that principle. You can't NOT think about these issues if he's the candidate.

And these issues are homefield advantage for Democrats.

And he's the best campaigner I've EVER seen in my life.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 04:00 AM
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19. Furthermore, I'm not sure if it's liberal, for example,
to vote on a few things that are good for the enviornment in order to cover your ass with liberals because you're voting for other things that shift wealth up the wealth ladder (like NAFTA). To me, that isn't liberal. That's bullshit.
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WiseMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:46 PM
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21. Sign-up for Kerry Meetup. Maybe enough support in your town now Kerry
looks like a winner.
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