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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 04:21 PM
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May we never forget.
Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 04:25 PM by ih8thegop
"The ultimate measure of a {wo}man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=00237

"A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq."

YEAs ---77
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bond (R-MO)
Breaux (D-LA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Campbell (R-CO)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Cochran (R-MS)
Collins (R-ME)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN)
Gramm (R-TX)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Helms (R-NC)
Hollings (D-SC)
Hutchinson (R-AR)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Nickles (R-OK)
Reid (D-NV)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Santorum (R-PA)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-NH)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thompson (R-TN)
Thurmond (R-SC)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---23
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chafee (R-RI)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (D-FL)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wellstone (D-MN)
Wyden (D-OR)

To the 23 Senators who voted against the slaughter of 3,752 and counting American soldiers, I thank you for standing up and exercising good judgment. That includes you in the afterlife, Mr. Wellstone. Same to others across the country who stood up and said NO! This includes you, Mr. Obama.

To the rest: There is blood on your hands. I hold each of you responsible for the needless slaughtering of American troops and countless thousands of Iraqi civilians.

That includes you, Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton and John Reid Edwards. There is blood on your hands for blindly supporting this nonsense. Shame on you.

Eight years of a murderer as our President is eight years too many. The Democratic Party which my family has proudly supported for at least three generations deserves better than to have a nominee who blindly supported this fool.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 04:37 PM
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1. Thank you for this.
The enormity of the violence that this one vote cast upon our earth is mind boggling! Tears for those who have died of any nationality, tears for those who have lost a loved one, tears for those who have been injured both physically and mentally and tears for those of us who have stood up and tried to stop this madness. For gods sake people wake up and bring the troops home. What do we possibly have to gain in comparison to what we have lost...our humanness gone for greed and money. Peace and love to you, Kim
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 04:49 PM
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2. And now a word from Ultra K


:)
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 04:54 PM
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3. I agree, but you've got people saying they were lied to by the regime
shown pics of UAV's supposedly on board sea vessels headed for the US and capable of dropping boi/chem agents on major US cities - turns out those pics were BS, yet some of the people who voted for the resolution were convinced by those pics.


I've no doubt there were a long list of lies - high-level lies - told to our Reps and Senators by this admin in order to get what they want.


The whole wording the resolution - the entire resolution, should be posted in the OP for context too. They didn't vote for that one sentence, they voted for the entire resolution.

Excuses? Not really, but context.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 06:50 PM
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4. Pappy Bush published a book years ago
about why it would be a disaster to go into Iraq. Everything that he outlined has come true. 'Fresh' intelligence won't change that accurate assessment. Peace, Kim
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 08:33 PM
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5. Yet 23 of them were able to figure it out
There is no excuse for the ones who voted for it - especially the ones who refuse to admit they were wrong.
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barack4prez Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 08:38 PM
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6. Context? Bullshit!!!
Stand up!! Somebody screwed up!!!
One "Yeah, I messed up" is worth 1,000 claims of "context."
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 08:55 PM
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7. If they were lied to - like we were - and that appears to be the case
seems that should be mentioned, that's all


Doesn't seem fair to present only part of a picture and make a claim as to the whole picture.


(btw, if you search for posts under my current handle, and my former, nu_duer, you'll see I was and am about anti-Iraq invasion/occupation as anyone)
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:49 PM
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8. Again - they were decieved, at least some of them
from kpete's thread, post the link momentarily...


Sept. 6, 2007 | On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.
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