GunGuys.com is demanding that the NRA remove Ted Nugent from his position as board member

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Ted Nugent, NRA Board Member, Threatens to Kill Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton During Vicious Onstage Rant

GunGuys.com is urgently demanding that the National Rifle Association immediately remove Ted Nugent from his position as a board member of the NRA after Nugent threatened United States Senators and Presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

This is the latest in a series of unacceptable extremist rhetoric -- and in this case a threat against the life of U.S. Senators -- from NRA role model and activist, Ted Nugent.

According to Rolling Stone magazine:

Renegade right-winger Ted Nugent recently went on a vicious onstage rant in which he threatened the lives of Democratic presidential candidates Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.” Nugent summed up his eloquent speech by screaming “freedom!”

This isn’t the first time Nugent has been caught spewing hatred. Last January, the guitarist caused a scandal for Republican Texas governor Rick Perry when he, among other abhorrent comments, wore a Confederate flag shirt and insulted immigrants at Perry’s inauguration event. In July, Nugent was quoted in a Wall Street Journal story blaming “stoned, dirty, stinky hippies” for “rising rates of divorce, high school drop-outs, drug use, abortion, sexual diseases and crime, not to mention the exponential expansion of government and taxes.”

Gun Guys.com will have more to say about this vile and disturbing rhetoric from the National Rifle Association soon. But for now, it is incumbent on the NRA to forcefully and categorically distance itself from its board member, Ted Nugent, by demanding his immediate resignation from the board of directors.

Second, Gun Guys.com is calling on the NRA to apologize both to Senators Obama and Clinton and pledge to disavow all forms of hate speech and threats to political candidates from individuals affiliated -- in this case as a member of its governing body -- with the National Rifle Association. In the 2000 presidential election campaign, Charlton Heston, then head of the NRA, called for the lynching of Al Gore during a Michigan campaign rally for George W. Bush.

http://www.gunguys.com/?p=2417

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1. The NRA has real kooks, like guys who don't want any background checks at gun shows

So what are you hiding with THAT one, NRA members? :scared: You don't want background checks of anyone, including yourselves, right? Why not, if you're law abiding citizens?

[krispos42]

5. This shows your lack of understanding of what a gun show is

A gun show is a temporary mall, a location for vendors to sell firearms and firearm-related accessories. The only thing the gun show itself sells is table space.

The vendors at a gun show are almost always federally licenced gun dealers, or FFLs. All FLLs are required to perform a NICS background check on gun buyers, unless the gun buyer is also an FFL.

However, in most states private, person-to-person transfers of firearms are not required to do anything more than exchange money for goods. For example, if my brother wanted to buy my shotgun, he gives me money and I give him the gun. Naturally, there's a restriction about selling guns to known or suspetected felons, drug abusers, the mentally insane, etc., but in practice it is just like selling somebody your old TV set.

A small percentage of people at gun shows selling firearms are not FFLs. Often times they are widows or children of gun owners looking to liquidate their spouse's or parent's collection, but there are a variety of good reasons for a non-licensed person to rent a table at a gun show and sell a few guns.

There is no 'loophole' as such. There are FFLs selling guns, and there are ordinary citizens selling guns. Sometimes they do it in a store, sometimes they do it at a garage sale, sometimes they do it on a kitchen table, and sometimes they do it at a gun show.

I, for one, have no problem with requiring all person-to-person firearm sales to have to go through an NICS check (by an FFL) as long as legistation was passed keeping the fees reasonable. Say, $20. But the Democratic party platform insists on focusing all of it's attention on protruding pistol grips instead.

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10. background checks for, "say $20?" What kind of background check would you get for that?

To do a proper check should take several hrs. at least, depending on how easy it is to get info/documents about a person you're checking. In some cases, it would take more time. (Example, if you find something questionable about a person, and you want to follow up on it). If you're covering the payment to someone to do a proper check when paying the fee, it should be a LOT more than $20 and someone who can speak and read well needs to do the job.

[krispos42]

11. The National Instant Check System check

Mandated by the Brady Bill, which, incidently, is still in effect.

Whenever you buy a gun from an FFL (gun dealer), he HAS to call up the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives and do a NICS check on you.

That's a federal law-enforcement check. They run your info through the federal system that all the states are required by law to report to. They check for felony convictions, domesestic-abuse convictions, restraining orders, etc., and report back to the FFL if you can buy a gun or not. They also check for mental-illness problems, like involuntary committment to a mental hospital, but as demonstrated by the Virginia Tech tragedy, states don't always report that information.

It is free for the FFLs to use, but is off-limits to the general public. FFLs don't charge for the time to run the check (about a half hour or less, usually) if you're buying a gun, but they generally won't do one for the general public for free.

If we're going to mandate that ALL firearm transfers go through an NICS check, that means that the FFLs will have to perform ALL of those checks. I have no objection to a modest service charge for the time and effort of the FFLs to run background checks without a purchase. A maximum of $20 or so I think is reasonable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Instant_Criminal_Background_Check_System
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Handgun_Violence_Prevention_Act

I hope this helps. The MSM is notriously bad at informing the public on these issues, just like on so many others...

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. The thing about Theo is...

That everyone who knows him, and I mean EVERYONE, for as long as I can remember, dismisses these Theo Moments with "Oh, that's just Ted! He'll never do anything!". And he won't. He loves to strut and preen, he knows it will get him the thing he loves most, publicity. That said, he's just a big chickenshit blowhard who has neither the intention or the seeds to carry out anything.

But that's not the problem.

Theo has always attracted an audience that, to be quite kind, wasn't exceptionally bright. Made up of the same loser timber as Ted, they are posers and preeners and just plain behavioral problems. Being dumber than a box of hair, some of them don't have the tools to discern between Theo's masturbatory fantasies and reality. So there is a real problem that one of these lesser intellectual lights might, in their dimmitude, choose to act.

That is the dangerous game Theo is playing.

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. Nugent is a total A-hole, regardless of who he associates with.

He can't overcome that.

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4. And if someone said something like this about the pretzelDolt - they

would be whisked away so fast their shadow would be left behind.

Try and tell me the nazi fear and intimidation tactics are in my imagination.

Go ahead.

Try me.

The conservative RW agenda is based on hate, fear and intimidation.

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6. Surprisingly, I agree with gunguys.com

They are typically more irrational then the NRA, but in this instance I agree with them.

Nugent did not expressly threaten anybody, but it is horribly crude, rude, and insulting. The NRA should distance themselves from Nugent.

[BeyondGeography]

7. I suspect one has to work hard to get to the right of gunguys.com

Call it another bullet point on Old Ted's resume.

[billbuckhead]

9. Gun nuts threaten our leadership AGAIN and we do little.

Remember when gun nuts threatened Rosie O'Donnell's children and many blamed her?

[krispos42]

14. gunguys is way left. They are very anti-gun.

In this case I believe they are correct, though.

[BeyondGeography]

17. Noted

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15. I suspect you don't have a clue who or what gunguys.com is

[Mojorabbit]

8. That was my first thought

on seeing the video. Complain to the nra. Worth a shot.

[derby378]

12. So why are the anti-gun "GunGuys" getting so much press about this?

That's what I don't understand. They're just another arm for Freedom States Alliance, which strikes me as a Brady-wannabe outfit.

[Progressive Friend]

13. Aren't "death threats" or "terroristic threats" illegal???

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16. only 'true threats' -- and Nugent's blather clearly doesn't qualify

The courts have made clear that, in order to comport with the First Amendment, the statutory provisions that declare it a crime to make threats against various officials and candidates are not actionable unless they are "true threats." Nugent is and always has been an asshole but no rational person would treat his stage blather as a true threat.

[Drunken Irishman]

18. I went to a KISS concert in the 90s where Nugent opened.

He called Hillary a fucking cunt whore, said we should kill the spicks and then attacked the Mormons (mind you, I'm in Utah).

He's a psycho that should choke on his own gun. The world would be better off.