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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:48 AM
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OK lets put the cards on the table: ROMNEY BELONGS TO A CULT
chew on that for a while!
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 12:52 AM
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1. What religion isn't a cult?
Convention just tells use they are something better.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:04 AM
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2. Amen to that. :)
All religions are a cult of some form or another.

Rp
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:45 AM
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7. All religions are not cults. But Mormonism certainly is
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 01:46 AM by sampsonblk
Some religions are about private, personal devotion to some higher power. But the mormon church was always about membership priviledges and dedication to the church itself, not to God. If it were a secular company, it would have been prosecuted long ago under the RICO laws.

For the life of me, I can't believe anyone would actually believe the stuff they believe. But the kids are put into it from day one. And once they hit their teens, they are out trying to convert other people.

As far as I am concerned, that's child abuse.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:36 AM
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10. I don't see how that is different than any other religion
Indoctrinate the children? Check. They all do that.

Send em out to win converts? Check. Some do this to a lesser (or greater) extent, but they all aim to convert others.

Believe crazy stuff? Check. At least, Mormons don't believe anything that has less evidence to support it than say, your average Seventh Day Adventist. Or Catholic. Or whatever.

Not seeing your point here my friend.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 04:39 AM
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12. LOL
you sound like people who say I HATE REALITY TV - EXCEPT FOR THE SHOW I WATCH.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:08 AM
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3. Which cult? The Republican Party, the Neocons, America?
:shrug:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:11 AM
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4. And he looks like a shoe salesman at Nordstrom's
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 01:11 AM by The_Casual_Observer
Ladies shoes.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:15 AM
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5. Why would you take time to post that?
Democratic Underground is a diverse community which includes Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, Agnostics, and others. All are welcome here. For this reason, we expect members to make an extra effort to be sensitive to different religious beliefs, and to show respect to members who hold different religious beliefs.


As an atheist, I am offended by the amount of religious bigotry I see on DU.

As someone who's worked (not nearly enough) along the gulf coast, what I saw was that the churches helped people and held their communities together, particularly in the minority neighborhoods, when the governments left them to die.

It's all very nice to feel superior to someone else on account of your beliefs, but their beliefs (which led to the structure of an alternative leadership being in existence) kept those people alive. It takes a certain amount of privilege to be able to live completely outside the church system in this country. It's good to remember that.
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iconocrastic Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:49 AM
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8. Thank you
for making a courageous statement among a group of cowards.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 03:00 AM
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11. There are so many things wrong with Romney
tha we should not use his religion in any way shape or form to degrade him here. It is not democratic.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:24 AM
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13. Yet every single Republican running.....
WILL use their insane religious beliefs as a tool to garner support for themselves. But it's not fair to use it against them? :shrug:
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 06:33 AM
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14. And who would those cowards be?
The people attempting to expose these religious charlatans as the hypocritical buffoons they truly are? Or would it be the people who hide behind the aegis of religion saying that it's not fair to question their beliefs, even as they use those same beliefs to deny rights to others and portray themselves as owners of the moral high ground?

Please, tell me who the cowards are.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 07:12 AM
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15. As an atheist.....
Edited on Sun Aug-12-07 07:14 AM by ClintonTyree
I can't understand why you'd be offended by someone attempting to enlighten others, to rid them of the chains of religious ignorance and servitude.

I take it you're a passive atheist, a well intended "live and let live" person. I used to be as well. However, since the religious insist on encroaching into everyones' lives on an ever increasing scale, I feel I would be remiss in not combating their incessant onslaught.

No more Mr. Nice Guy.

"It takes a certain amount of privilege to be able to live completely outside the church system in this country". I don't think that assumption is correct. All it takes is a willingness to seek the truth and the will to reject the ease of accepting religion's carrot on the stick. The religious DO expect something in return for their aid and comfort, make no mistake about that. True, some of the religious DO practice what they preach but I find them to be in the minority and again, they do expect something in return, even if it's only the empty promise of your eternal "soul".

As the religious ramp up their crusade to quash knowledge and individuality I find myself becoming more of a militant atheist to combat that ignorance and superstition. I feel no shame or have no feeling of superiority in doing that. They, on the other hand, DO consider themselves to be superior in all ways because of their beliefs. So, who exactly is being intolerant here? :shrug:
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 01:35 AM
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6. Yes, he does.
And so does every other declared candidate. His just happens to be even more ridiculous than the others.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 02:02 AM
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9. Yeah, it's called the GOP
fucking lunatics, those people.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 08:24 AM
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16. Puhleeze, if you're going to label LDS as a cult,
You might as well go ahead and label chritianity and its various sects as cults also. In fact at one time that is what Christianity was considered, a cult. Then it got official government backing and exploded.

The difference between a cult and religion is both size and public acceptance. The vast majority of people in this country recognize LDS as valid religion.

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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 08:28 AM
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17. I simply do not believe in attacking someone's religion.
I may not agree with the religion but that does not give me a reason to attack someone's religion. Who are we judge someone's belief's?
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-12-07 08:56 AM
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18. Locking
Respecting a person's religious views, (or lack thereof), is a DU standard.

The use of the word "cult" brings to mind Charlie Manson, The Unarians and others. "Cult" is a term that can do little less than antagonize individuals.

Thank you for your understanding.

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