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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:17 AM
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Edwards was the clear winner.....
from the live blog done by Katharine Zaleski (news editor at HuffPo) and Lane Hudson (LGBT blogger/activist):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lane-hudson-and-katharine-zaleski/liveblog-of-gay-issues-de_b_59870.html

10:55
LANE: Edwards was the clear winner in this setting. Without a doubt. Hillary walked in thinking she had this support sewn up, and I'm afraid her appearance tonight will severely damage that.

KATHARINE: I think she'll win support at least for appearing open to change. She talked a lot about the need for it . No one can argue that she hasn't been around the block

LANE: Obama wasn't exactly a rock star.

KATHARINE: You're right about Edwards. He set himself apart

LANE: Richardson was a total bomb. Gravel and Kucinich were all the way there, but political reality is that they probably won't be winning the nomination. Dodd and Biden have gotten more ink here than they deserve since they didn't even show up.

KATHARINE: Edwards managed to move forward from his CNN-YouTube debate answer on gay marriage that left a lot of people in the lurch.

10:58
LANE: Yes, Edwards showed movement on these issues. And he handled them well. That is why he is the clear winner here.


11:01
KATHARINE: Well...at least the Democrats (or most of them) actually went on the record. The Republicans won't even participate.The Dems made an important move towards Gay Rights by even participating in the debate. So I'll toast to that. What say you, Lane?

LANE: They are all lost causes anyway. The Republicans, I mean. I'm actually astonished at the difference between the candidates tonight. Richardson was awful. Obama was pretty blah. Hillary acted like she had it all wrapped up. And Edwards was the surprising one. Chalk up a win for Edwards. It was a great recovery from his answer in the You Tube debate.

KATHARINE: I'm with you that Edwards was good, but I think Hillary took the cake too. She had a super tough question from Melissa and she answered it with promises to make changes. It was pretty heartfelt -- more so than Kucinich's heartfelt analogies. Although those were funny... I missed her heartfelt crap. Well, here's to hoping these issues keep getting churned around. Some of the candidates have much farther to go.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:19 AM
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1. I don't think most viewers agree
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:31 AM
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2. I don't know, man. I'm for Edwards 100%
but I don't think he made many friends this outing. :shrug:
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 09:50 AM
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3. Edwards is asways a winner,
One question ask by someone with out healthcare and actually stating what Edwards has been saying about the need of a national health care plan. very much makes Edwrd a winner in the other debate
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:03 AM
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4. Yep
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:22 AM
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5. Video at MyDD
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:35 AM
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8. That is a great video!
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Dragonbreathp9d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:26 AM
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6. grrrr
"LANE: Richardson was a total bomb. Gravel and Kucinich were all the way there, but political reality is that they probably won't be winning the nomination. Dodd and Biden have gotten more ink here than they deserve since they didn't even show up."


So, because Gavel and Kucinich probably wont win the nomination, they didnt win the debate? WTF?
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:29 AM
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7. Edwards had the additional advantage of not getting short-shrifted in time.
As always happens in the MSM debates.

I thought JRE was very, very engaging - warm and HONEST. Did NOT hem and haw and hedge like Clinton and Obama. And Lord, please help Bill Richardson. Every night seems to be an "off" night. I think he's just not the sharpest tack.

Biden and Dodd's absence speaks for itself. Hope it becomes permament, since they've sunk to using the debates to curry favor with Hillary. Eww.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-10-07 10:38 AM
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9. Apparently, Time Magazine, or more aptly, its online blog, disagrees with you.
Edited on Fri Aug-10-07 10:38 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Frankly, I'm more inclined to believe that Time Mag, is in the Hillary camp. Period. But, I'm glad to read in this pro-Edwards article that something was said in her favor. That she understands that change is needed. I'm more inclined to believe a source that has something good to say about the opponents, than one that gives a slam dunk to the media darling.

Now, we just need to determine what kind of change she has in mind.
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