Dean's Recently Former Natl Campaign Chair = JUDAS

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

I can't believe how vindictive and underhanded this scumbag is to resign from the Dean campaign the DAY BEFORE the WI primaries. It's probably saying something that he's cozying up to the Kerry campaign now...can you say "SABOTAGE"!

JB

[sallyseven]

1. Grossman is as decent

honorable person. He believed that Dean could win. He knows now that it will not happen. It isn't his fault. I think that to say that he sabotaged Dean is very disconcerting. Maybe he dislikes bush more than some other people and wants to make sure that he is beaten.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

4. If he were "decent" and "honorable," he WOULD HAVE WAITED 2 DAYS

He's a scumbag, and I'm convinced he's the final turn of the knife in Deans back from the DLC/Establishment crowd.

...screw it. I'm voting for anyone but Bush or Kerry. I WILL NOT BE FORCE FED A CANDIDATE.

American democracy is dead.

JB

[stickdog]

7. Bullshit. Yesterday was his first day on the job for Kerry, and he earned

himself a year's salary by betraying Dean.

There's no other way to interpret his behavior. A decent man would have quietly contacted Kerry AFTER Wisconsin.

[aquart]

2. Sabotage.

And not just Dean. Would you hire this scum?

[genius]

3. Switch in position or infiltration?

When people make dramatic switches, I can't help wondering where they are coming from. In Southern Califonrnia, in one CD, two avid Dean supporters who have been attacking Kerry almost non-stop, have become Kerry delegates. This was a big surprise to everyone who knows these two people hate Kerry. Did they really convert or did thy just infiltrate the Kerry delegation to break their pledge at the convention and mess up the vote? Don't know the answer but these sudden switches are curious.

[displacedtexan]

5. Delegates are monitored.

Their votes are recorded for future reference (and possible party appointments). Those who pledge to one candidate and change course have every right to do so; however, they need to be prepared to forfeit any hope of future party positions if their new guy/woman doesn't win.

It's a real gamble.

[diamondsoul]

6. DAMMIT!

Dude, PLEASE write Dean and tell him if he feels he needs to drop out to throw every ounce of support behind Kucinich NOW while there's still a prayer left!

FUCK, I know that sounds mercenary, but it honestly isn't. Kucinich won't quit, win or lose we know that. With Dean's help there is still the potential for a serious win for progressives.

Here's my thing, Kucinich isn't moving up as fast as I'd like him to. I know that and so does everyone else. If he's going to lose the nomination I want DEAN to have it. I don't like Howard Dean on a personal level, but by God I prefer him to Kerry after what I've seen in the past month. If Kucinich is going to lose, I need Dean in there. If Dean drops then I NEED him to help Kucinich pull it out of the hat!

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

8. I hear ya. Kucinich is next on the DLC hit list.

He better watch out for DLC or Kerry operatives in his campaign.

JB

[diamondsoul]

9. Kucinich is virtually untouchable, though.

Seriously, the things they could pull out against him are so assinine they're simple to stomp out before they even take hold. Kucinich supporters have had an entire years head-start doing just that. Other than infiltration, and believe me we're extremely careful about that these days, there's nothing they can do to drag him down.