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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:30 AM
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Would a Pelosi presidency steal Hillary's thunder as First Female President?
We know Hillary (or at least Carville) played a part in making sure Kerry didn't challenge the vote in '04. Could this be a reason why impeachment may be off the table?

Just tossing ideas around, feel free to vehemently shoot this down : )
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:35 AM
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1. I don't know and I don't care. I do know I'd love to wake up tomorrow
morning and find that Shrub and Darth have vacated the premises and Nancy was #44.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:42 AM
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2. President Pelosi would make my day
far more than another President Clinton - though I'll root for her, if she's the nominee.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:44 AM
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3. Let's elect them each and find out
--p!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:46 AM
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4. If impeachment goes through as planned
the next President will still be a Republican, not Pelosi, and here's why.

The strategy right now is to impeach Cheney First. Although getting minimal press coverage, 15 Congressman are now Co-signers to House Res. 333. Once Cheney is impeached and removed, Bush can be expected to appoint a successor, who will be a Republican, of course. If Kucinich is worth his salt that's when he'll introduce a measure to impeach Bush. Bush would probably resign at this point, as he hasn't been running the country anyway and really doesn't want the hassle. The appointee, the new Gerald Ford, would then become President.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:50 AM
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6. Read the 25th Amendment especially Section 2
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 11:52 AM by LiberalFighter
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:20 PM
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13. The point is
that if Cheney were impeached, he'd resign, and Bush would nominate a replacement. The congress would never refuse to confirm a qualified replacement, then impeach Bush, too. It would be seen as a coup, and rightly so.

But it's all just talk, because nobody's getting impeached, much less both of them simultaneously. But if it were to happen, Cheney'd resign, and Bush would appoint John Warner, or former Senator John Danforth, or someone who would be approved with 100% of the congress.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:25 PM
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14. I disagree
For all we know this may be the strategy happening now. But they are making sure they hold the cards.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:13 PM
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16. So you think
the US Senate, which today won't even break a filibuster or overturn a veto to defend this President, would switch and vote to remove both Bush and Cheney, making a Democrat president?

That's some heavy delusion.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:51 AM
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7. Neither Bush nor Cheney would ever resign
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 11:54 AM by Gman
because there aren't 66 votes in the Senate to convict and remove. The House, needing a simple majority vote to send article of impeachment to the Senate, could possibly impeach. But these guys are in it for the long term (Jan 09).
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:48 AM
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5. I ran this scenario by the SO just
yesterday when explaining the hows and whys of impeachment....
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:55 AM
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8. Pelosi would not be an elected president. She would also only be
an "acting President". As all the Vice Presidents etc who assumed office after the demise, impeachment, or resignment of a president.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:04 PM
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11. No
Gerald Ford was President, not acting President.

Same for all the others who assumed the office.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:04 PM
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12. The US Constitution says you're wrong.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 11:59 AM
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9. Who do you think Pelosi should make SOD and SOS if she assumed the title.
I definely think Wes Clark would make a heck of a Secretary of Defense. And I know it sounds hokey. But Bill Clinton would also make a good Secretary of State. He is familiar with world politics and conditions and he can definelty get along with other foreign and domestic politicans.

Patrick Fitzgerald would make an unbiased AG. Also. Then who would she recommend for vice president....they wouldn't have to fill it but it would be nice to have one.

First thing I would do tho is kick rove's ass out on the curb.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:00 PM
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10. We don't know Hillary did anything of the kind.
Thanks for the sleaze.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 12:38 PM
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15. We know that Carville tipped off the Bush campaign to a Kerry vote challenge
Why would Carville do something like that?
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