Well, it's begun...all of our "top tier" are now acting like schoolchildren.

[calteacherguy]

I suppose it will be this way from now on, won't it?

This is why Clark and Gore aren't running. They are better than this nonsense. I'd hate to see either one of them lower themselves to that level.

[ShortnFiery]

1. NO, I don't agree.

IMO, only HRC and her DLC cronies are chomping at the bit to "get medieval" on their opponents a**es. And it just may be backfiring on them. :evilgrin:

[Totally Committed]

2. Time for the REAL top tier to enter the race, and kick all these kids to the curb!

Clark and Gore and maybe even Bobby Kennedy, Jr. need to enter and show them all how it's done.

TC

[MUAD_DIB]

3. I haven't watched more than a few minutes of any

of the debates.

Firstly: It's just too damn early

Secondly: All of the Democrats should be campaigning to boot Alberto, investigate Rove and get to the business of removing the troops from Iraq.

When will the campaign season start for the 2012 election: next week?

[Greyhound]

4. Clark has already taken himself out of it.

In his interview on Charlie Rose, he stated he saw no way to win and if he can't win he's not running.

He would be an excellent SOS or SOD though.

[sandnsea]

5. I hear a foreign policy debate

I don't know what you're hearing, unless you're listening to Vilsack whine.

[Bonobo]

6. You are mostly right, but I still say that Gore or Clark could still come in...

Look, if you are going to really have a revolutionary effect on the political reality of this day and age, you will have to move in different ways and modes than the others stuck in "same business as usual" mode.

I submit to you that Gore and Clark know that the whole idea of a 2 year campaign is stupid and self-defeating in a day and age when you can't keep people's attention that long without becoming a big, fat media target and simultaneously giving up your ability to say anything that will be taken meaningfully.

Fact is, IF the American people really, really, really screamed for a man like Clark or Gore, a man that was not PERCEIVED as running because he WANTS the position of POTUS, then the American people COULD AND WOULD get that man or woman. I'm talking about a LARGE MOVEMENT, a new, New Deal. Something so hugely grassroots that it crossed party lines before party lines ever had a chance to be written so indelibly on a candidate's skin as to paint them as abhorrent to the other side...

We need a real new revolution. It ain't gonna be Hillary or Edwards. Maybe not Obama either. IMHO, the real hopes are still waiting in the wings to see if there is any hope of building a real mandate, not like the luke-warm crap, but a real movemement of the people. But this will only come when there is so much fear and desperation... many more will go under before it happens. But when the need and hunger is so great, they will not be able to stop the people at the bridge like they did during Katrina...

[Placebo]

7. Hillary is the only "top tier" candidate sounding like an adult these days.

Edwards is out there shouting rants against an nebulous "they", and Obama is all talk.