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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:30 PM
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Why if Hillary Becomes President...nothing will change in Iraq
All of this, "get out of Iraq" stuff is just campaign talk. If there is any potential President on the Dem side that I don't see getting us out of Iraq, it is Hillary Clinton. I remember when she was one of the most hawkish Dems on the Iraq war before she started running for President...maybe nobody else does though. But I'll say I don't buy her BS for one second. I don't see a DRASTIC change in strategy if she becomes President...maybe just something to keep the base happy or make it look like she's doing something, but don't expect us to leave Iraq any time soon under her. And Iran would still be very much on the table. You see, DLC Dems STILL support the war!! They just don't like how Bush is f*cking things up for them and want to change the way it's fought. But they do NOT believe in pulling out.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:36 PM
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1. I think you're right
The money is flowing from Bush to Clinton. There would be a token pullout of ground troops with the difference made up by contractors. Lots of money has been made in Iraq with much more to come. Hillary will make sure that Cheney's Halliburton investment continues to pay big dividends.
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:38 PM
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2. I don't even think the token pullout would last long...
If they're serious about staying in Iraq indefinently...it would only be a matter of time before they're put back in.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:44 PM
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3. Except she wasn't the most hawkish Dem on Iraq.
Hell she wasn't the most hawkish Dem out of the candidates for President
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:51 PM
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4. She said she would end it when she is president ,within 90 days,
Edited on Mon Jul-16-07 02:52 PM by durrrty libby
but fools here, never let facts get in the way of their

grandiose delusions.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:56 PM
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5. I love that!
"fools here, never let facts get in the way of their grandiose delusions"

So true!!
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Gotitdone Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 06:07 PM
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10. She said she will end the war on one day and then
something else on another, though never in front of cameras.
If you recall she told the New York Times editorial board that
she supports keeping troops in to guard the Iran/Iraq border,
fight Al queda and train Iraqi forces. Her idea of "Ending the war"
would require tens of thousands of troops. How can she end the
war and leave thousands of occupying troops in?? As if the
native Iraqi insurgency will stop attacking US troops just
because she gave a speech declaring that she ended the war but
we will still have half the current force conducting military operations???
I don't get it. This is what you get from politicians who care more
about their own political future than what is best for the country.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 02:56 PM
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6. we are not leaving for a long time.at least one or two bases
will be manned for years and we`ll cut a deals with who ever wins.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:20 PM
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7. I oppose Hillary, and may not vote Dem if she's the candidate; but ...
I don't think she's stupid enough to try to continue the occupation of Iraq were she prez. Dubya has destroyed that option.
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 03:28 PM
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8. Because you say so?
That's about what your post boils down to.

Apparently Joe Wilson doesn't agree with you.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Nothing will change?
Is that because there's no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats?

How is Bush f*cking things up for them?
Oh that's right they're all in it together .... allegedly.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 05:41 PM
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9. Presidents change their minds.
Governments change their policies.

Pressure on the next U.S. president to end the war in Iraq will be huge.

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