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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:30 AM
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It is time to invoke the nuclear option. Now. The way the rethugs have been doing...
It has to STOP right now.

Simple majority passes the bills. Simple majority overrides the veto.

Fuck the Thugs. They threatened us for 12 years, and they got their own way. It's time for them to have a taste of their own fucking medicine.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 11:40 AM
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1. No. That should only be used as a last resort. Right now there is a growing consensus
to force GOP Senators to actually stand in the well of the Senate and give speeches for twenty-four hours a day in actual filibuster, rather the current way of doing things.

The Senate has had to hold 40 cloture votes already this year.

If the Republican minority is going to obstruct by filibuster, then they must do the acutual deed of 24/7 speechifying in order to obstruct.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:13 PM
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3. Are the Senators discussing this or is it just us?
> Right now there is a growing consensus to force GOP Senators
> to actually stand in the well of the Senate and give speeches
> for twenty-four hours a day in actual filibuster, rather
> the current way of doing things.

Are the Senators discussing this or is it just us?

I've certainly been in favor for quite a while of
requiring *REAL* filibustering rather than this
candy-assed "I *WOULD* filibuster you, so back
down!" shit that's allowed to stop bills nowadays.

Tesha
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 08:36 AM
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4. There's a YouTube up that has a Senator discussing this on Young Turks, if I remember correctly.
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 08:40 AM by 1monster
I also saw a thread yesterday regarding another Senator musing on this.

Sorry, I don't remember which thread.

ON EDIT: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-16-07 12:07 PM
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2. That second one has a little constitutional problem
> Simple majority passes the bills. Simple majority overrides the veto.

I am fully in support of the first and was, even
last year when it was the Republicans threatening
to push the button on us.

That second one, though, has a little constitutional
problem -- the over-riding of vetoes isn't set by
Senatorial rules but rather by the Constitutuon.

Tesha
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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 09:24 AM
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5. I disagree with eliminating the filibuster.
I strongly agree that the Senate should actually force the people who threaten a filibuster to actually do it. No more backing down from a simple threat of taking their ball and going home. In that, I agree with Reid. If the Repubs want to block by filibuster, let them summon the 'nads to stand up and talk endlessly to stop debate. I think the American people are starting to wake up and realize what has really been happening.

Oh, and the veto thing would require a constitutional amendment. ;)
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