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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 06:58 PM
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The Carville Matalins show respect for Libby, but highly disrespect Democrats.
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 07:13 PM by madfloridian
I find this so outrageoous, and it really angers me.

Sorry, Kids, Scooter's Going To Jail

This statement says they respect him so much. After all he did to the Joe Wilson and wife, Valerie. After all he did in covering up the lies.

"Though my husband James Carville, a Democratic Strategist and Clinton supporter, shares neither political nor philosophical views with Scooter, he has a deep respect for his intellect, his integrity, and joins me in the sentiments expressed here."


Poor Scooter, they would have us believe.

Remember when Mary Matalin said this about the Democrats and Howard Dean? No respect at all...in fact, contempt.

Matalin in 2005 said Dems would dump Dean by New Year 2006

BLITZER: If anything, Howard Dean has been very consistent over the past few years, including when he was running for president.

MATALIN: Howard Dean is in some form of denial. Let me make a New Year's prediction for you, Wolf. The Democrats are going to have to dump him as a party chairman. He can't do the two things a party chairman is required to do, which is to raise money or get the message out.

When you look at a country that has gone from tyranny to sovereignty, to a transitional government, to a constitution, and next week is going to have the first self-determined elected government in the region, that is progress. He can be in denial, but who doesn't have a plan, doesn't have a policy, is the Democratic Party. And he's certainly not helping the Democratic Party, who are back-pedaling from their chairman faster than a (INAUDIBLE).


Her hubby is working overtime to be sure the Democrats dump Dean.

Carville is carrying someone's water.

From McJoan at Daily Kos:

"Obviously James Carville is not a stupid man. He knows he didn't invent the 50-state strategy and that this line that they didn't pick up an additional 20 seats because of Dean is ridiculous. So what's the explanation? Why is he spouting these absurdities? Covering for Emanuel because he either ignored or got into the third tier of races so late? Frankly, Emanuel never imagined that we could have had 50 seat pickup this year, and he wanted to focus on the 20 races he started with, on his grand plan.

Is Carville is carrying Emanuel's water on this one? I don't know for sure, but I do know that the rest of the Dem Party establishment has credited Howard Dean and the 50-state strategy for the great success of this cycle."


And even more absurd, from the same post:

Ford decides he won't let Carville replace Dean with him, yet.

Ford himself said he will likely run for office again, although Ford did turn down an offer by James Carville to run to replace Democratic Chairman Howard Dean."


In 2005 and 2006 and it continues in 2007.

But they love Little Scooter Libby.

:think:



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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:02 PM
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1. Its another edition of 6 degrees of James Carville brought to you by MF (nt)
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:04 PM
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2. word
:toast:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:08 PM
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5. What is up AK?
Please tell me you caught your man on the Daily Show two weeks ago?

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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:16 PM
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8. on TDS and everywhere else it seems
It is spectacular that he is polling third and not even running.

It seems the Democrats are lousy with talent.

* lousy (lou'zē ;) pronunciation
adj., -ier, -iest.

1. Infested with lice.
2. Extremely contemptible; nasty: a lousy trick.
3. Very painful or unpleasant: a lousy headache.
4. Inferior or worthless: a lousy play.
5. Slang. Abundantly supplied: lousy with money.

* But also a tongue-in-check reference to those that just think everything and everyone sucks with very few exceptions.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:09 PM
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12. I will continue to do so.
When someone so actively works against his own party's leader and then shows respect for Libby...I will point it out.

You guys are all using the same talking points against me now. Change it up a little..
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:15 AM
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32. We'd expect nothing less n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 10:56 AM
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41. Another Hillbot and friend of Carville, Bob Zimmerman, attacked ...
Another Hillbot and friend of Carville, Bob Zimmerman, (Democratic Strategist ? and paid CNN pundit) attacked Howard Dean on CNN yesterday (Wolfie's pre debate show) stating that Howard Dean should be FIRED for saying that Rudy's personal life will cause him problems in the election.

Man, that guy Zimmerman totally creeps me out. His 1/2 closed, cold, hooded eyes remind me of a Cobra getting ready to strike. And trust CNN to pay a certified Hillary supporter as a "Democratic Strategist" to spout Hillary campaign slogans and attack other Democrats on CNN.

The fact that these creepy people are all in the Hillary camp is enough to scare anyone.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:15 PM
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49. Glad I missed that. Guess now the party doesn't want criticism of Republicans.
:shrug:

Boy, they sure want him fired, don't they? Glad I missed that. Hillary Rosen was on Tucker when Dean said that...though he did not give details. She said his phone was ringing off the hook. Very critical.

CNN used that as the "hook" when Dean was on. That was not the purpose of the interview, but he did vaguely agree with Blitzer.

So now we know Carville wanted him "fired"...Doug Schoen, a Clinton advisor, said in his book he should be replaced with Harold Ford...and Begala called Dean an a**hole from Vermont.

And now Zimmerman wants Dean fired? Are they that afraid to crticize Republicans now?

Doug Schoen says to fire him and replace with Harold Ford.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/...
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 06:03 PM
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58. They ARE the elite powerstructure - the SHARED interest DC powerstructure
Things like this don't JUST happen.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:05 AM
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42. And I thank you for doing it,
madfloridian.

I applaud you for being so patient with posters who hijack your thread with their inane, banal attacks on you for bringing up the latest offensive of fooking mary matalin and even more fucking, traitor james carville.

:toast: :loveya:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:48 PM
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56. "You guys are all using the same talking points against me now"
That happens when responding to the same thing posted dozens of times over the last few months.

"Change it up a little.. "

If it ain't broke....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:50 PM
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57. Doesn't have an effect on me at all anymore.
It is just meaningless now.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:24 AM
Response to Reply #1
33. Do I detect sour groups?
:nopity:
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:04 PM
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3. I still feel for all those whose cover was exposed by
Libby, Rove, Cheney, et al, there they were in place and suddenly w/o warning their cover was exposed and everybody knew they were
CIA, what about mercy for those people and what happened to them.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:27 PM
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13. and THEIR children.....and all of us who depend on the risks these people take.
.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 09:02 AM
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40. That's right folks! Valerie and Joe have children too
What did Bush/Cheney/Libby et.al do to Valerie and Joe's kids?

Why should Libby's kids trump V&J's kids? Is everyone to have more concern for Libby's kids than for V&J's kids. Let's see now. Libby knowingly committed a crime while V&J did not. If the family of the criminal doesn't get to suffer something for the action of one of their own then what good does it do to bother with a justice system? Those committing crimes need to know that their actions will hurt the ones they love (if it's possible for them to love) and the one's that love them. It should be a deterrent to crime.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:08 PM
Response to Reply #13
59. Yes, and that put a spoke in the WMD intelligence
right we were in the first six months of fighting the war, how many died looking for weapons that weren't there?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:07 PM
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4. Carville knew throughout 2003-4 that WH outewd Plame and protected their lie
the entire time the WH was calling Plame and Wilson liars and declaring their innocence. CNN had Carville as their representative Democratic voice that entire time.

Fucking TRAITOR married to a war criminal was protecting BushInc along with HER the whole time.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:09 PM
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6. That's what it looks like...
How disappointing! I used to think Carville was one of the good guys ~ but always wondered how that was possible, considering his choice of spouses. They both give me the creeps these days!
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:24 PM
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9. You have a good memory
I love your posts because you cut through the bullshit and put up the facts. As long as Carville "seemed" like a Dem many people were willing to overlook who he's married to (WHIG, anyone?) and the fact that he's been chasing the almighty buck like a good repug for years. I'm ashamed I was ever taken in by the snake back in his Crossfire days.

BLM= :patriot:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:06 PM
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11. You are right, blm. He had to know about it.
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 08:07 PM by madfloridian
It infuriates me how he loves Scooter who helped cover up the lies about the war, and how he is so willing to try to take down a Democrat who is respected by the party activists.

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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:28 AM
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34. I would like to point out that Dean is not just supported by "activists."
Deaniacs come from all walks of life, we are main street America. I have never seen such a diverse group of people as I have at many Dean events. I once had the privilege of seeing Howard address a room of 75-100 people at East Los Angeles Community College (He spoke in both English and Spanish). SEIU workers both white and Hispanic, African-Americans, students, office workers, housewives. Howard is rapidly approaching the point where in some sense we have rebuilt the old FDR coalition.

Fucking MSM.

:hi:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:43 PM
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55. I agree.
All walks of life. :hi:

We were the most unlikely "activists" around...my hubby and I were not that way at all.

The war made us that way, and Dean gave leadership.

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jenmarie Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:34 AM
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62. More than a traitor
I've long thought Carville was a plant. What good has he done for the Dem party? And why do you think Corporate Cable so-called news shows love to have him on? No. He should be laughed at and marginalized every chance we get. And exposed for the plant he is. I loathe that man.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:11 PM
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7. Wait a minute -- Carville famously told Matalin to "stop working for that old queen"
And NOW he respects the guy? WTF?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 07:28 PM
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10. You know who really shocked me today?? J. Toobin....caught him on
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 07:31 PM by Gloria
CNN this afternoon (I think it was CNN) just in time to hear him saying that Libby's sentence was awful heavy for a guy with young children and an "exemplary" life to this point....

I sure hope he was being sarcastic or conveying an imitation of Repuke spin.....
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:29 AM
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35. He wasn't being sarcastic.
Just another CNN tool.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:41 AM
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64. Exactly. And HE was forced upon us as the 'chosen' Dem voice at CNN the last 7 years?
Pure manipulation of perception.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 08:58 PM
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14. Why I get so upset about the sabotage by Carville...quoting The Next Hurrah.
There has been so much work done to bring state parties out of financial holes and bankruptcy since Dean took over in 2005. For Carville to insult Dean again like he did last week and be supportive of Libby just blows my mind.

This was posted earlier, but time for a reminder.

I never realized the bad shape some parties were in until I read The Next Hurrah.

.."Now to my knowledge Mr. Carville is not a delegate from Virginia (where he lives and votes), and he does not represent any constitutant group. He is, simply put, not part of the DNC and is irrelevant as to whom they should select as their National Chair. Nor has he participated in any deliberations of the committees or commissions of the DNC over the past two years where the program of the DNC was authorized.

..."Two years ago I spent a good deal of time on local blogs organizing meetings with our DNC delegates when Dean and his program were the core of the vote the DNC was about to take in the wake of the 2004 Election Disaster. This was not to be simply a mid-winter social gathering in DC -- it was serious business. We eventually got all our votes for Dean and his program. I was in a good position to argue for the program because in the 1980's while chairing Alan Cranston's campaign here, I had discovered how pathetic many of our state parties actually were. Many were literally bankrupt, the office supplies and machines (typewriters) had been taken for unpaid debt, and padlocks were on the door. The State Committees that had the franchise were held in one or another lawyer's file cabinet, (In Georgia it had been Bert Lance's for about 20 years), and the reason for this condition was frankly racism. The Southern States would not allow the release of the franchise to a newly elected Central Committee or Board, because it would be Black. They could do this because the parties were in bankruptcy, and whatever lawyer had the letterhead in his files was also the court appointed trustee.

When Dean took over the DNC -- this was the condition of about twelve of our State Parties. He actually had to find lawyers to go into court and get the parties out of this kind of "Trusteeship" before he could even begin to reorganize. In fact, one of the reasons some of the Field Organizers Dean appointed are on the staff of the DNC rather than state parties is because it avoids dealing with old trustees and old court judgments.

The really sad thing is that Democrats all around the country don't know about all this -- about how the party structure was sabotaged essentially over the matter of race over a long stretch of years. By not actually dealing with the matter -- and it should have been argued out and dealt with in at least the 1970's -- it has festered, and now we have this assumption by James Carville that he is the great white master, who can dictate the structure of the DNC, including which African American should head it as opposed to Dean, or whom ever else the properly constituted DNC should elect.


And Carville is not doing this on his own, trust me. It is hurting all of us as a party.

More at the Next Hurrah.

Backstory on Carville v Dean


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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:04 PM
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15. A Pro-Hillary DLCer sides with Bush & Rush Limbaugh again? Why do I find this so easy to believe?
Edited on Tue Jun-05-07 09:06 PM by Dr Fate
A Pro-Hillary DLCer agrees with Bush, Rush Limbaugh, FOX news and every Republican I know- and opposes the hard-working, active Democratic base???

GASP!!!! Tell me no!!!! ;)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. Perhaps Carville got oxycontins from Rush
They all have sex with one another!
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 05:30 AM
Response to Reply #24
36. Scientologists.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:09 PM
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16. Letters from Ordinary People Said Throw Him In Jail!
What struck me the most about the Libby Letters were not those from the rich, powerful, and connected. They were the hand-written ones, or the ones obviously done up in MS Word (or whatever) from ordinary people. They all said "throw him in jail!" The "little people" aren't as stupid as the Repugs seem to think they are. Or maybe they're recognizing that Scooter really blew it big-time. Or maybe they've just had enough of the Bush Junta and want accountability from SOMEONE. Whatever the reason, those hand-written letters to Judge Walton brought tears to my eyes. I'm sure that the Wilsons were similarly touched.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. Can you imagine how the ones felt who lost loved ones in the war based on lies?
I did not see all the letters, just a few. Will need to go and read some more of them.

Those in power are so casual about truth now. I am afraid that is true of many in both parties.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:15 PM
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17. Not defending Carville, but Ford couldn't have turned down
an offer to chair the DNC from Carville because Carville can't make that decision.

Ford, himself, says it was never offered.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 09:33 PM
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18. Of course Carville couldn't offer it. It was a warning shot.
DEAN: I have to say I get a laugh out of that one. Here we have let's leave the federal races aside, because the DCCC and the DSCC did do a wonderful job. But the truth is we got six additional governors. We got nine additional legislative chambers. New Hampshire now has a Democratic house and senate for the first time in a century.

We did great. And I think the time really has come now, now that we're in power, at least in the Congress, to pull together, to be unified. We've got a lot to do in the next two years. We've got to elect a Democratic president, and so...

WALLACE: Do you have any intention of stepping down?

DEAN: No. I talked to Harold last night, and he has no he doesn't want the job. This is some kind of inside the Beltway silliness.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,228923,00.html
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 10:21 PM
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20. Carville's a turd.
And, what's worse, is that the media took this story and ran not even considering that Carville can't hire and fire the DNC chair at will.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 10:25 PM
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21. That was Ford's job and Carville's job to set the story straight.
There was little Dean could do without looking petty.

That is why I say it was a hit job, and they knew what they were doing. It was out in left field. They thought it would be believed. And many do believe them. People love Carville's bald head and rudeness, and they think Harold Ford is sexy.

So they listen. And there were no counter voices except from the blogs.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:32 PM
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22. I want to find out if Carville wrote a letter for Libby.
If he did, drum him out of the party.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:38 PM
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25. He signed one...link from ProSense's post.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

The image is there.

Yep, he did. Start drumming. :evilgrin:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. Yeah, I just found it on "The Smoking Gun" via Buzzflash.
Hillary has quite the group of asswipes surrounding her. Carville, Mark Penn, ad infinitum nauseum.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:02 AM
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29. What an incestuous little bunch
Richard Carlson, Tucker's daddy, wrote one of those "think of the kids" letters. Must have been some pretty interesting conversations between Carville, Novak and Carlson before, during and after Crossfire. Hell between the three of them (who knows what role Begala plays in all this) you've got very strong connections to Libby and this case.

The one letter writer that scares me the most is Cesar Conda. He used to work for Cheney and is incohoots with Heritage, Cato, and the rest. You'll notice the Navigator letterhead that people like him and Ron Christie used lists Conda as a named partner.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:35 PM
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23. Carville is turning out to be quite a turd
Attacks Dean while defending the war criminal Libby. What a jerk!
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-05-07 11:44 PM
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26. the same Carvelle that is the Clinton lapdog and tried to overthrow Dean. nice.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:37 AM
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28. The DLC prick Carville wants the excellent Howard Dean's job
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 01:40 AM by LaPera
at the DNC and Carville is still trashing Dean...in order to have a DLC, DNC lock to get Hillary nominated.

Cheney/Libby act was treason and DLC Carville turns a blind eye...because his kids like Libby.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. I doubt Carville wants that job
he just had some disagreements with St. Howard.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #30
44. carville is a fucking traitor to
the Democratic Party and Dean is working his butt off for it..if you want to call Howard Dean a "saint"..go right ahead.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #44
48. Thanks for the permission
I already did.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Not a permission...
a big "YEAH!!"
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 12:03 PM
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47. He's got mine and Buckley's.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:48 AM
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31. carville is gonna rot in hell along with all these other fucking republics! n/t
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:42 AM
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37. Mrs. Clinton Will Make A Great President!
:sarcasm:, in case you thought I was serious.

This stuff is incredible - classic Clinton playbook. This is why the Democrats lost Congress in '94 - the Clintons try to destroy any potential competition in their own party, while stroking the opposition to get deals going - deals for really helpful stuff, like 'free' trade with China.

Elect Mrs. Clinton, and we'll lose Congress again. But Romney would kick her ass before it even got to that.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 01:40 PM
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50. There's the rub - they'll work to undermine other Dems but wouldn't BOTHER taking on BushInc
in any substantive way on ANY of the most serious issues of the last 7 years.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:38 AM
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38. neither deserve a second thought -- both are corporate stooges
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 08:45 AM
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39. The Clinton/Carville/Rahm Emanuel era of the Democratic Party needs to end....
It worked during the '90s, when the booming middle class overlooked all those little unpleasantries such as NAFTA and the encroaching corporate influence on the Party. But in the more sober 2000s, we see the disastrous results.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:29 AM
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43. It really angers me too
When will Democrats refuse to allow this kind of crap in their party? Carville lost me years ago when he married that witch. I knew then (and I was right) that he would just serve as a pipeline of Democratic party info from that moment on.

Then when he helped lose the 2004 election, I was even angrier.

Now he screws us once again by publicly supporting Scooter.

Carville needs to just become a Republican.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 02:20 PM
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52. carville-matalin is worse
than a republican..he's a dino, a stealth operative.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 11:35 AM
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45. Sickening
Just sickening. :puke:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:45 AM
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63. Allow me to second that.
:puke: :puke:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 12:01 PM
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46. Why? He's no longer dissembling. He's openly showing his colours.
Edited on Wed Jun-06-07 12:01 PM by KCabotDullesMarxIII
Water finds its own level. A man is judged by his friends. This is pro-active friendship, beyond the call of duty. The question is, what does he think is in it for him?

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, however, dandy-looking it might have appeared at one time. He knows he's burnt his boats with the Dems - thanks to the Internet and blogosphere.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:24 PM
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53. Carville literally sleeps with the enemy!
He hates the anti-corporate people.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 03:36 PM
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54. Jon Stewart had the good sense to read the other
really egregious letters that were really fascinating ... but not DU. Nope, DU immediately jumps on the letter cosigned by a has-been Democrat and grinds it into the ground. Like this comes as some sort of surprise? Yawn.

Of more interest is the PNAC-filled letter bag from the architects of the war, a virtual cornucopia of the morally bankrupt supporting the morally bankrupt.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-06-07 07:18 PM
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60. and who died and appointed Carville King of the Democratic Party?
Who the hell is HE to "offer" running for the job of DNC Chairmanship to Ford? Thinks he's a fucking kingmaker. Happily, the real Democratic Party -- the grassroots and workers in each state -- know better.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:28 AM
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61. We're great, everyone else is trash . . . huh?
It's amazing the sentimentality and outpouring of understanding that can be given for right-wing thugs by other right-wing thugs!

Mary Matalin is a strange lady -- comparable in many ways, IMO, to Cheney.

Carville is either game-playing in the Democratic party -- or he's an idiot.

And it doesn't look like there's a great deal of trust for Emmanuel.

This is the "left" working for the right.

Before too many people get the idea that Dean is worth following, presume they are going to have to try to damage him.



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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:38 AM
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65. Save your anger. Carville and wife are typical whores of
the corporate system.

Expect anything else from these Pieces of excrement, I KNOW you'r'e not that naive.
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