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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:26 AM
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It's sad when Dean/Edwards people get so desperate they root for a scandal
First they lower themselves to believing Drudge. Then when Kerry denies it, people dissect his words saying he didn't say this or he didn't say that or he was coughing so he's got to be lying is a sign of deep desperation.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:27 AM
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1. I think it's funny
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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15. OK People, let's knock this off.
If you start with the fact that THERE ARE NO VIRGINS, anywhere, in any political camp, then you will start to be honest.

The spoils go to the guy who can pull it off, skate through the maze taking what ever help he/she can.

Don't lie, we all do it.

Every political camp this season has had someone somewhere pull tricks against the opposition.

Attacks can make you weaker, attacks can make you stronger.

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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:33 AM
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21. yup, nothing like a bimbo erruption to amuse us all
that's the ultimate in missing Clinton I guess.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:46 AM
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50. There is no evidence the other candidates have
gone to Drudge. Please review your post.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:27 AM
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2. This thread will prolly be locked but god bless you...
And Edwards and Clark were my favorite candidates.....
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:28 AM
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3. We don't know if they are Dean/Edwards people on an anonymous board
Could be anyone.

Don

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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:29 AM
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5. Here's how I feel
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:30 AM
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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13. An avatar proves nothing. Think about it for a moment n/t
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 08:34 AM by NNN0LHI
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:29 AM
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4. I feel for you -
it was very upsetting to see 50 million anti-Dean threads every time I logged in. I know exactly what you're going through. My advice is to take a Valium if you have one, or smoke a joint, then go watch cartoons for a while.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:29 AM
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6. No one is 'rooting' for it.
We would, hoever, like a clear, unequivocal and non-nuanced. denial. I do not intend to spend the next 8 1/2 months defending a candidate against "Clinton's Cock: The Sequel".
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:30 AM
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8. He has denied it
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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11. No, he didn't.
He issued yet another highly-nuanced Kerry-ism.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:32 AM
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16. What would you like him to do?
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:33 AM
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19. How about issue a categorical denial, in plain English? n/t
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:34 AM
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24. He did
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:34 AM
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26. No, he did not. n/t
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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31. Um...
"There's nothing to this, heh heh heh..." is not a categorial denial. "That's a damn lie!" is a categorial denial. Period.

Later.

RJS
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:37 AM
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:30 AM
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7. Sorry about being worried who the Democratic Nominee is
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 08:32 AM by sgr2
Dean and Edwards people didn't manufacture this Kerry scandal. But now that it's possibly here, you expect people to just ignore it? Look, I've defended Kerry for the last 5 weeks against dozens of ridiculous attacks. But when something this shocking comes up, I'm not about to sit back and deny it isn't a big deal.

First off, if there's nothing to it then where is the intern in question and why hasn't she gone on the record denying it?

Second off, if there's nothing to it then why are the parents of the intern now calling Kerry a "sleazebag."

And if there's nothing to it, why did Kerry give such a, well, boring answer to a very serious question? I've come to enjoy John's aggressive liberalism, but this wasn't his finest hour.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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10. It's a boring subject to him
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:33 AM
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20. Oh I get it
Now Kerry has to go around denying every none story. Okay I get it. So when someone claims Edwards kicked there dog you want Edwards to respond to it. GOOD GRIEF
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:39 AM
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42. A sex scandal with an intern is not a "non-story"
And for the record that's a lie, Senator Edwards has protected the rights of animals his entire life and anyone who would suggest otherwise is either delusional or flat-out making stuff up.


See, that wasn't so hard eh? :-)
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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12. demdem, this is all part of the primary process.
It is good to get this all out in the open. This is what I was told by Kerry supporters several months ago. We must test the candidates or they can't hope to run against the bush machine. It's all good demdem.

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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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35. Karma is an amazing force! (NT)
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:38 AM
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41. 100% agree
It's the excitement, that ah ha now my candidate has a chance is silly to me. You now have people dissecting his apology.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:31 AM
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14. I would be willing to bet
that if I look back I will see some of the very same people knashing their teeth over the use of Drudge as a source now, praising it when it was done to Dean.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:32 AM
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17. You are correct. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:32 AM
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:34 AM
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25. Too bad he DIDN'T 'flatly deny it', huh? n/t
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:40 AM
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43. EXACTLY
Now I'm going to work.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:33 AM
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22. You mean like ....Dean's "anger"?
the big red "A" they hung on Dean to make him unelictible?

That was child's play by comparison....

You'll get no river of tears from me.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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34. The media hung the big red "A"
which proves the point ... if the media can make a fuss about it, but Dean is still an electable candidate in the race, then the same holds here.

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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:45 AM
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49. not quite.
Wishful thinking?

Dean was painted as "angry"-- and how fucking ludicrus is that? Anger is the incentive behind ABB for crissakes. That is all they could trip Dean up with--there is no sleeze.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:33 AM
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23. Kerry was great this morning
and fully believable. It's good to know we have that scumbag Imus on our side.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:35 AM
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27. I though he was weak
I thought he was weak and he did that giggly nervous cough thing.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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29. I didn't hear a giggly nervous cough
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:38 AM
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40. I sure did
hear nervous laughter and coughing
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:42 AM
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47. you heard what you wanted to hear
The guy has given 5 speeches a day for the last 60 days on occassion barely being able to speak. You may think he would have a bit of a cough.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:35 AM
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28. Imus grilled him - Kerry responded well
it's time for this to die a sudden death!
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:37 AM
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Grilled him? Hahahaha...
Oh geez. Oh yeah, Kerry should check his ass for griddle marks, hahahahaha!

Later.

RJS
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:41 AM
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46. Imus was delicate
and totally supportive of his bs answer.

Kerry did NOT deny the story.

He said there WAS no story.

and THAT is a blatant lie, because...

there IS a story.

One of Imus guys said something about Imus seeing the Easter Bunny running across the studio when Imus said he believed Kerry
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:40 AM
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45. did you hear the other guy in the studio?
afterwards he said he had not doubt Kerry was lying.

Molly, Kerry needs to get out of the race if he can't take it.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:46 AM
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51. Who said he was lying?
The said he was telling the truth and he tells the truth.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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30. I'm not a Dean / Edwards person
And I'm worried about this. My fate, the fate of the party and the nation, likely rests with the ability of the presumptive nominee to attain the White House. You'll have to forgive me if my concern supercedes partisanship for your candidate.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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32. Kerry is just that bad
that those who are from the democratic wing of the democratic party SINCERELY want him out of this race.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:37 AM
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36. Too funny!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:40 AM
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44. I'm Glad You Get To Define Who's A Democrat....
<kisses>


from DemocratSinceBirth aka Brian
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:36 AM
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:37 AM
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39. Well, they are certainly giving it their best effort.
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:37 AM
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37. I agree!
During this entire primary season the display put on at DU has been sickening.This however, may be the lowest point of all.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:43 AM
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48. But if it is true
it is Kerry's fault.

I blame Clinton for Bush's Selection
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:47 AM
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53. Lenin Nailed People Who Engage In This Behavior
He called them "useful idiots"

Lenin was referring to well intentioned democrat leftists in the west who were unwittingly doing the bidding of the Soviet Union...


Well, we have unwitting leftists who are unwittingly doing the bidding of the Republican National Committee...

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 08:47 AM
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52. yes its pathetic
very sad
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