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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:04 PM
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Womney: Wabbit Hunter (the Mitt-wit tries to dig out of his hunting lie)
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=3013787

— Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney is taking a second shot at describing his hunting experience.

The former Massachusetts governor has called himself a lifelong hunter, yet his campaign acknowledged that he has been on just two hunting trips one when he was 15 and the other just last year.

Campaigning in Indianapolis on Thursday, Romney said he has hunted small game since his youth.

"I'm not a big-game hunter. I've made that very clear," he said. "I've always been a rodent and rabbit hunter. Small varmints, if you will. I began when I was 15 or so and I have hunted those kinds of varmints since then. More than two times."

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:07 PM
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1. and one of the 2 times was a canned hunt with the RNC
LMAO.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:09 PM
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2. So Mitt is a big brave "small varmint" hunter, eh. How Republican of him
I'll bet he killed him a fierce bunny wabbit when he was only 3.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:10 PM
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3. Varmints? He said varmints?
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 11:12 PM by Fridays Child
What the hell voter bloc is he going after with "varmints?" The Beverly Hillbillies?

Edited to add the definition of varmint, from dictionary.com:

1. Chiefly Southern and South Midland U.S.
a. vermin.
b. an objectionable or undesirable animal, usually predatory, as a coyote or bobcat.

2. a despicable, obnoxious, or annoying person.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:28 PM
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6. Talking code...
To real hunters, "varmint hunting" is as cool as it gets.

The ultimate shooting skill.

There are a lot of really serious hunters who are registered to vote.

That being said, I believe that Romney is total bullshit.
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treelogger Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 12:57 AM
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9. Varmint are really hard to shoot
... which is why this is one of the the high arts of hunting.

Imagine shooting a big elk or moose. They are often in the forest, so you can't actually see them until you are pretty close. Shooting an animal that's the size of a cow or a horse, at 50 yards, is easy. Plus, you are typically using pretty substantial bullets, which fly pretty straight, even if you get the elk or moose in a clearing, and have to take a long shot (a few hundred yards). Any shot much longer, and your bullet doesn't have enough oompf left for a clean kill, and big-game hunters are very very insisting on a humane, quick death. The equipment and supplies are commonly available, and not very expensive.

Now contrast that with hunting prairie dogs. They are about 6" or 8" tall. If you are a boring kind of person, you hunt them with a .22 rifle at 30 yards. Anyone can do that. But to really prove your chops, you go out to the Dakotas or some flat prairie state, and you hunt them at 300 or 400 yards. This requires super-accurate rifles (starting at a few grand, like a nice Cooper), really expensive optics (good scopes like high-end Leupold, Swarowski, Leitz start at about a grand), extremely straight-shooting bullets (like the .204 Ruger, which starts out at Mach 4), carefully hand-loaded ammunition that's carefully tuned to your specific rifle, and very high skill levels. You have to get a good feeling for estimating distances, quickly and intuitively compensate for bullet drop, and "dope the wind" (find out the wind direction, and compensate for it). Plus, these little critters are by their nature small, and therefore fast-moving (you've never seen a moose jump down into a hole into a ground, for good reasons), so shooting them requires speed, and an understanding of the behavior of the animal (will he hold still, or won't he).

There are other hunting disciplines that are extremely difficult. Tracking rare or unusual game over large distances. Hunting dangerous game (cape buffalo in Africa, large predators such as Grizzly or the large cats). Hunting large game with bow and arrow only. But varmint shooting can be just as difficult, except at the end you don't have a large trophy suitable for mounting on the living room wall (if you are that kind of person), but only a small pile of dead rodents.

Oh, and farmers tend to love it if you come hunt varmints such as prairie dogs on their fields - because they destroy crops, make large holes that damage agricultural equipment, and such.

Disclaimer: I personally don't hunt at all, and I'm sure I wouldn't get any joy out of killing animals myself. Even though I'm a gun owner and competitive shooter, I don't have any rifles suitable for hunting, nor a hunting license (but I have rifles suitable for target shooting). I've been known to use guns on half-dead rats caught in rat traps (to give them a speedier trip to their eternal gnawing grounds), and in self-defense against rattlesnakes (just last Saturday, the first rattler of the season was found less than 3' from our patio, and it it was a beauty: pretty big, mean and nasty looking, in the mood for eating little boys, and it died of high-velocity lead poisoning).

Getting back to the original topic: My defense of varmint shooting does not in any form exculpate Governor Romney. He is a liar and hypocrite, plain and simple. Just like Senator Kerry did a few years ago, he's trying to dishonestly inflate his "sportsman's" credentials, for obvious political reasons. Once I find that he is dishonest on this one topic, why should I expect him to be honest on any other topic?
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 01:18 AM
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10. When it gets down to it, we are all targets...
But that is another thing...
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 02:36 AM
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11. I think he meant definition number one
He couldn't have meant definition number two, because he
didn't shoot any fellow Republicans on his RNC hunting trip.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:20 PM
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4. yeah, he sets mousetraps in the basement
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:22 PM
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5. I smell varmint..


You know the rest. :)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 11:52 PM
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7. Well,that locks up Yosemite Sam's vote.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 12:07 AM
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8. shhhhhhhh ... be vewy vewy qwiett
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gr8dane_daddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 02:51 AM
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12. Even Luke chimes in...
General Dodonna: The battle station is heavily shielded and carries a firepower greater than half the star fleet. It's defenses are designed around a direct, large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense.

Gold Leader: Pardon me for asking, sir, but what good are snub fighters going to be against that?

General Dodonna: Well, the Empire doesn't consider a small one-man fighter to be any threat, or they'd have a tighter defense. An analysis of the plans provided by Princess Leia has demonstrated a weakness in the battle station. But the approach will not be easy. You are required to maneuver straight down this trench and skim the surface to this point. The target area is only two meters wide. It's a small thermal exhaust port, right below the main port. The shaft leads directly to the reactor system. A precise hit will start a chain reaction which should destroy the station. Only a precise hit will set off a chain reaction. The shaft is ray-shielded, so you'll have to use proton torpedoes.

Wedge Antilles (Red 2): That's impossible! Even for a computer.

Luke: It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters.

General Dodonna: Then man your ships. And may the Force be with you.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 08:56 AM
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13. Please nominate Mitt !!!
He'd be one of the easier ones to beat.
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:19 AM
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15. Mitt, McCain...whomever....
Bring it on!

I mean McCain is a joke as well and Giuliani...has no chance.

Shit...looks like a cake walk to me. We'll figure out away to f**k it up though...Kerry's not running is he? (Sorry, I love taking cheap shots at the Kerry fans.)
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:39 AM
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16. Dame Rudy beats most Dems in most polls
and McCain is still surprisingly strong too. People like their MSM dubbed "heros." I am not confident that MSM will tarnish the mythical "heros" if they were nominated, and I am not confident that most Americans would dig deep to find the truth.
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:58 AM
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18. Problem for Rudy is that...
he will never win the repug nomination. He's got way to many skeletons in his closet that most of the right wing repugs fear. He has a problem with his stance on abortion...his multiple marriages...his affairs...ties to local NY politicians...once this thing starts to heat up...Rudy is going to have to leave the kitchen.

McCain is a joke.

and well...Mitt-Witt...he's a flip-flopper.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:58 AM
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17. Yeah Kerry really blew the debates. And Bush was so good didn't even need the RNC
working overtime to suppress and steal Kerry votes.

And let's not forget the GREAT job Terry McAuliffe did securing the election process for all Dem voters and candidates. Kerry losing the debates wasted all of McAuliffe's hard work for four years securing the election process and building the party's organizations in all the crucial swing states.
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leftwingnut Donating Member (843 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 10:04 AM
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19. I like Kerry as a person and what he's done for this country...
...but he is not the type of Democrat that is going to sway the undecided voter...just to much "baggage" and he's an easy target for the right wing.

But the man is a true American (if there is such a thing, I'll leave that up to your own philosophical consciousness to figure out).
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 10:10 AM
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20. He did sway them. Exit polls proved it. Pundits attacked him to cover up for election fraud.
You never noticed the OVERKILL on the tearing down of the campaign? By attacking Kerry personally they could easily deflect from the election fraud and the questions of how the exit polls gave Kerry a 5% victory.

It was always about Hillary 2008 for Dem party powerstructure.


http://www.depauw.edu/news/index.asp?id=13354
>>>>>

Whom does the biographer think his subject will pick as a running mate? Not Hillary Rodham Clinton. "There's really two different Democratic parties right now: there's the Clintons and Terry McAuliffe and the DNC and then there's the Kerry upstarts. John Kerry had one of the great advantages in life by being considered (unable) to get the nomination in December. He watched every Democrat in the country flee from him, and the Clintons really stick the knife in his back a bunch of times, so he's able to really see who was loyal to him and who wasn't. That's a very useful thing in life."
>>>>
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catgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-06-07 09:12 AM
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14. Maybe he and Dick can hunt each other

Two less varmints in the world.
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