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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:46 PM
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FLASHBACK: Hastert Traveled Abroad, Told Foreign Leaders Not To Listen To Clinton
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/04/hastert-colombia/

FLASHBACK: Hastert Traveled Abroad, Told Foreign Leaders Not To Listen To Clinton

President Bush yesterday said Speaker Pelosi’s bipartisan delegation to Syria sends “mixed signals,” implying that Pelosi overstepped her bounds by visiting Syria. Bush’s supporters have been repeating the argument:

Former ambassador John Bolton: “I would simply hope that people would understand that, under the Constitution, the president conducts foreign policy, not the speaker of the House.”

Former Gov. Mitt Romney: “It has long been the established principle of this country that the president of the United States leads our foreign policy. And if you don’t like the president, then you change him. But you don’t have the two parties each conducting foreign policy in the way they think it ought to be conducted.”

Thomas Sowell: “Until Nancy Pelosi came along, it was understood by all that we had only one president at a time and — like him or not — he alone had the Constitutional authority to speak for this country to foreign nations, especially in wartime.”

Speaker Pelosi has done nothing to suggest that she intended to speak on behalf of President Bush or the U.S. Government. But her predecessors haven’t been so respectful.

In 1997, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) led a delegation to Colombia and specifically encouraged military officials there to “bypass” President Clinton and “communicate directly with Congress.”

At the same time Congress was attaching human rights conditions to U.S. security assistance programs and negotiating a formal end-use monitoring agreement with the Colombian defense ministry, other lawmakers were secretly assuring Colombian officials that they felt such restrictions were unwarranted, and would work to either remove the conditions or limit their effectiveness.

One example of this was a congressional delegation led by Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) which met with Colombian military officials, promising to “remove conditions on assistance” and complaining about “leftist-dominated” U.S. congresses of years past that “used human rights as an excuse to aid the left in other countries.” Hastert said he would to correct this situation and expedite aid to countries allied in the war on drugs and also encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress.”

Subsequently, U.S. Ambassador to Colombia Myles Frechette sent a cable complaining that Hastert told Colombian military officials to “take a tough line and wait for insistence on human rights conditions to be overwhelmed by the pressure of events,” saying it had undermined his leverage with the Colombian military leadership.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:48 PM
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1. GOOD CATCH!! There is nothing that they won't lie about.
Oh this is SO nominated!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:49 PM
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2. Absolutely. This is a gem!
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:52 PM
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3. But 9/11 changed everything
Or was it 1/20/01 that changed everything? It gets kind of confusing sometimes, but I know that the bottom line for the likes of Walrus Face, Flipper Mitt and Uncle Thomas Sowell is IOKIYAR: It's okay if you're a Republican.

You will search in vain for a record of any of those three men taking Hastert to task for his 1997 shenanigans.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 02:54 PM
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4. That belongs on the homepage. Recommended. ... Hey, Keith!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:00 PM
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5. Thanks for the reminder; just sent to KO. nt
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:09 PM
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6. There's no business like war business.
Excellent find. But we already knew the reasoning behind all of the past republican administrations. And even some Dem. We didn't invade Panama for democracy. Nor Iraq.


It's finds like this that might just repair the disconnect in the heads of so many Americans. One more dot to connect.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:16 PM
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7. "Good catch!" from me too!
I have some knowledge of the Logan Act (1799), and know that although very rarely invoked (and probably unconstitutional), it's still on the books. But in view of the recent Pelosi visit, it'll come in real handy when countering the flak.

pnorman
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:19 PM
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8. speaking of overstepping boundaries ...
2000 - Richard Perle

Anger at peace talks 'meddling'

Political scandal in US as Bush advisers tell Israelis to be ready to walk out of Camp David negotiations

Julian Borger in Washington
Thursday July 13, 2000
The Guardian

The Middle East peace talks at Camp David became the subject of a political scandal in the US last night when reports emerged that one of George W Bush's foreign policy advisers had warned the Israeli delegation to be prepared to walk out of negotiations.

Richard Perle, a veteran cold war warrior and former assistant secretary of state, urged the Israeli prime minister, Ehud Barak, not to agree to any settlement which left the future status of Jerusalem unresolved, according to the New York Post website.

The website quoted a message received by Mr Barak yesterday from two of his emissaries, Yoram Ben-Ze'ev and Yossi Alpher. The two men said Mr Perle "asked us to send a clear message" to Mr Barak that it would be a "catastrophe" if the Jerusalem question was not dealt with, and urged him "to walk away" from the Camp David negotiations if faced with that outcome.

~snip~

Democrats responded angrily to what they portrayed as Republican meddling in the delicate negotiations currently under way at the presidential retreat at Camp David, Maryland, aimed at reaching a final settlement in the 52-year Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,342857,00.html

democrats.com archives

Richard Perle Sabotaged Mideast Peace Talks in July 2000
11-Mar-03
Richard Perle

In July 2000, Richard Perle contacted the Israeli government and deliberately tried to sabotage President Clinton's Mideast Peace talks at Camp David, when Clinton worked around the clock with Ehud Barak and Yassir Arafat to find a formula for peace. Barak's people reported the matter to Clinton, and Bush was forced to publicly disavow the efforts on his behalf to sabotage negotiations. Bush said he 'disagreed' with what Perle did, as if his campaign had not directed and/or approved of it. At the time, there were demands that Perle be prosecuted for illegally interfering with American foreign policy. Naturally, Bush's new AG John Ashcroft scrubbed the case.

http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Richard%20Perle

time to unscrub the case

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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 03:42 PM
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9. Send not JUST to KO, but to EVERYONE. I know there are many here,
including me, who send stuff on to KO all the time, and we need to keep doing that.
But just because he's the only one right now who seems to have a grip on reality, we need to send this stuff to ALL the MSM whores, in HUGE numbers, all the time, every day, repeatedly. They have been complicit in this shit, and we need to bombard them with the facts they can't seem to ferret out for themselves.
We can't be complicit in LETTING the MSM get away with their kool-ade mainlining ways...

Great catch on this! Thanks for posting!

I'm off to forward this to a few MSM shills.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 04:04 PM
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10. He met with Arafat also, once again, what hypocrites
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 04:08 PM
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11. Hypocrisy indeed n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:06 PM
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12. kick
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 11:50 PM
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13. Mike Malloy read from the article in the 3rd hour of his Wed show
Edited on Thu Apr-05-07 12:06 AM by Bozita
Mike was pissed, bigtime!

IIRC, replays are available at Ben Burch's White Rose Society:
http://www.WhiteRoseSociety.org/
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